2015 Grow lists - Is it Time?? - Page 12

Gardeneer · March 30, 2015

Good selection, drbob . And have a good season !

Gardeneer

drbobintx · March 30, 2015

Thanks Gardeneer. Likewise!

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MrBig46 · March 30, 2015

Carolyn,
I also occasionally shopped at the Estonian site. But now respond to a request for Russian seeds as follows:
Директивы ЕС, к сожалению, теперь не позволяют ввоз российских семян ( EU directives, unfortunately, no longer allow the import of Russian seeds).
I will have to look for another source of Russian seeds.
Vladimír

**carolyn137** · March 30, 2015

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBig46

Carolyn,
I also occasionally shopped at the Estonian site. But now respond to a request for Russian seeds as follows:
Директивы ЕС, к сожалению, теперь не позволяют ввоз российских семян ( EU directives, unfortunately, no longer allow the import of Russian seeds).
I will have to look for another source of Russian seeds.
Vladimír

Tania is an excellent source for Russian varieties and I've also listed many of them in my seed offers here as well.

This year almost every variety Reinhard Kraft in Germany sent to me, I chose them, was from Russia,a couple from Bulgaria and one from Latvia.

And all the ones that Clara got for me from the Estonian site, I chose them and cut and pasted them here just recently you can have several of them just by signing up for my seed offer, then you send me an e-mail telling me what you want, it's all described in my seed offers, and then I pay the postage to all who are outside the US,

I just finished packing up seeds this afternoon for two more folks, still have 3 to go, who will be doing seed production for me this summer.

Carolyn, who is convinced that her Swedish ancestors went to Russia b'c she's always been interested in Russian history and culture and when she hear's a men's Russian chorus singing she kind of melts into a pool of protoplasm.

joseph · April 8, 2015

Quote:

Originally Posted by joseph

My tentative grow list is approximately like this:

For fruit production

72 Ot'Jagodka
72 Joseph's Earliest Slicer Landrace
24 Matina
6 Yellow slicer
6 Yellow pear
12 Roma
12 Orange cherry

For Plant breeding:

A grex collected from late season indeterminate plants with loose/open flowers.
F1 crosses between Jagodka and plants with open/loose flowers.
A collaborator in Alabama is currently growing the F1 crosses. I am also growing them under grow lights. Hopefully one or the other of us will get F2 seed for planting in May.
A grex of wild species and/or crosses with domestic tomatoes.

I'm expecting to get serious about planting tomatoes in the next week so here's some additions to the grow list:

One plant each of:

Persimmon: To drag orange color into my breeding program on the chance that it might improve the taste.
Cougar Red Vine: Because it claims it's adapted to cool growing season. 75-80 days to maturity is way iffy in my garden.
Belyi Naliv: Because it came from Dan McMurray's garden.
Sibirskiy Skorospezyi: Because it claims to be a very early determinate that came from one of Dan's neghbors.
Bloody Butcher: So many people in cold climates praise it that I aughta give it a chance.
Old German: Several people sent me seeds thinking that they'd meet on of my breeding goals. Might as well try it.
Stupice: A variety that I sought out because it is early, and said to be highly favored by bees. I'm really looking forward to this one.
Kozula #14 Megatrusses F4 Red Pear
Kozula #14 F5 Pear-Shaped Cherry Super Multi-floral Very Good Flavor
Jackass Yellow: To help get me away from red tomatoes.
Fargo: A yellow pear tomato
Little Paste: A variety I grow every year just because it is unique. Fruits are super long keeping and can dry on the vine.
Hawaiian Cherry: I think someone sent this due to the flower characteristics.
Tastiheart: Too long season for my garden, but I keep it around hoping to be able to do a proper frost tolerance test on of these years.
LA 3969: S Habrochaites introgression line. Tests very high cold tolerance.
An unnamed current tomato given to me at the farmer's market by the flower lady.
I have seeds from Galapagos wild tomatoes if I can find them.

Then I'm growing about a dozen each of:

[(Big Beef X Eva Purple Ball) X Disease Tolerant Red] or seed that I collected from it...
Wild Crosses: A mix of all kinds of about 3 seeds per type. Some F2s F3s. All should cross pollinate well.
D5: Part of a direct seeded breeding project that keeps failing for me, but I keep trying.
Joseph's Main Season Tomato Landrace, Seeds returned to me from a collaborator in 2012.

Still might yet get F2 seeds from the winter-growouts of some of the crosses for the promiscuously pollinating project. I moved them into the greenhouse about a week ago. Some have fruits already, some don't.

**carolyn137** · April 8, 2015

Quote:

Originally Posted by joseph

I'm expecting to get serious about planting tomatoes in the next week so here's some additions to the grow list:

One plant each of:

Persimmon: To drag orange color into my breeding program on the chance that it might improve the taste.
Cougar Red Vine: Because it claims it's adapted to cool growing season. 75-80 days to maturity is way iffy in my garden.
Belyi Naliv: Because it came from Dan McMurray's garden.
Sibirskiy Skorospezyi: Because it claims to be a very early determinate that came from one of Dan's neghbors.
Bloody Butcher: So many people in cold climates praise it that I aughta give it a chance.
Old German: Several people sent me seeds thinking that they'd meet on of my breeding goals. Might as well try it.
Stupice: A variety that I sought out because it is early, and said to be highly favored by bees. I'm really looking forward to this one.
Kozula #14 Megatrusses F4 Red Pear
Kozula #14 F5 Pear-Shaped Cherry Super Multi-floral Very Good Flavor
Jackass Yellow: To help get me away from red tomatoes.
Fargo: A yellow pear tomato
Little Paste: A variety I grow every year just because it is unique. Fruits are super long keeping and can dry on the vine.
Hawaiian Cherry: I think someone sent this due to the flower characteristics.
Tastiheart: Too long season for my garden, but I keep it around hoping to be able to do a proper frost tolerance test on of these years.
LA 3969: S Habrochaites introgression line. Tests very high cold tolerance.
An unnamed current tomato given to me at the farmer's market by the flower lady.
I have seeds from Galapagos wild tomatoes if I can find them.

Then I'm growing about a dozen each of:

[(Big Beef X Eva Purple Ball) X Disease Tolerant Red] or seed that I collected from it...
Wild Crosses: A mix of all kinds of about 3 seeds per type. Some F2s F3s. All should cross pollinate well.
D5: Part of a direct seeded breeding project that keeps failing for me, but I keep trying.
Joseph's Main Season Tomato Landrace, Seeds returned to me from a collaborator in 2012.

Still might yet get F2 seeds from the winter-growouts of some of the crosses for the promiscuously pollinating project. I moved them into the greenhouse about a week ago. Some have fruits already, some don't.

Joseph, just a few comments.

You mentioned grexes in your original post and I'm not so sure everyone knows what they are so here's a thread from Tville about SSE and grexes, and see link in post 7;

http://www.tomatoville.com/showthread.php?t=30276

Belyi Naliv. Why does it matter if it was grown in Dan's garden since mand of us in the semi-tundra have grown it, including me, and there were many seed sources as you can see, I got my seeds from SESE when Jeff McCormack listed many early ones he got from Russia

http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Belyi_Naliv

Stupice. There were four versions bred, two for ingound growing and two for glasshouse growing. I grew the Stupike rani one for inground and also one of the glasshouse ones and until you wrote what you did I'd never seen anyone who said they attracted bees. They didn't, at least for me.

Galapagos Wild. There are many listings for just Galapagos wild listed in the SSE YEarbooks. Some are currants and some are cherries, the one I know best is:

http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Sara%27s_Galapagos

I had asked Amy to bring me back seeds for S. cheesmanii, but she brought back fruits and sent then to me and ASAP I knew they weren't what I asked for so contacted Dr. Chatelet at TGRC for his opinion. TGRC has a list of accessions for each of the Galapagos islands and since I knew which island it came from he was able to tell me what he did in the above link.

Until fairly recently it was thought that all S. pimpinellifoliums ( currants) had exerted stigmas, which I know is what you want to increase X pollination, but I found out that only about half of them do from Keith Mueller, and he sad he was more concerned with his regular tomato varieties Xing with any so called pimps than the reverse.

I know Old German very well. Why would it be useful in your breeding program? Just curious and I ask b'c it's a typical gold/red bicolor and late season and there are over 200 named such bicolors also known, so why Old German specifically?

All for now,

Carolyn

loeb · April 9, 2015

My list this year:

Purple Pear Brandywine
Paul Robeson
Black Krim
Chocolate
Black Pear
Purple Russian
Fiolet ciemny f3 [violet dark f3 Kozula's breeding line]
Brad's Black heart
135Malinowa zebra śliwka f4 [Raspberry zebra plum f4 Kozula's 135 breeding line]
141AlbengaxCopiaf2 [Kozula's 141 breeding line, last time I got from those huge fruity bicolor]
Owocowy2011f3 ze 141 [this is f3 of 141 line, selected by me for fruity flavour, still fruit too big]
White Tomesol
Blonde Boar ["white zebra"]
Elite Wonder
Persimmon
Peron
139 Zielona zebra f4 [139 Kozula's line greenish zebra]
Malachite box
Grub's Mystery Green
Chile Verde

Aunt Rubys german cherry
Madara
Verde Claro
Black Cherry
Isis Candy
Cherokee Green grape
Green grape
Jaunee Flamee
Snow white cherry
Velvet Red
Burpee Supersweetf1
Megagron f6 [in US known as Megatrusses]
Polish Nightsf3
Beautiful Dreams [those are still segregating.. from Tom Wagner seeds bought 2 years ago]
Snow White x |Owocowy „f1”[ this is my cross between Snow White cherry and AlbengaxCopiaf2]
Pink snow f2[snow white x owocowy]

„Mrozoodporny” [this is selection from last year, red cherry that self-seeded in a garden where some of Tom Wagner cherries were year back; survived blight and first freeze, and now is setting fruit on my window sill.. It was very stubborn so I will check how this one perform this year]
Snow white x Angora super sweet/velver red f1
Berkeley Tie Dye Pink
Tasmanian Chocolate
Dwart Beryl Beauty
Alpatieva 905A
Orange Tree
Pearly Pink Orange
Tsar Royal Gift
Betimes Macbeth [don't know if its stable]
Kootenai
Betalux
f6 K131 determinate Kozula's paste
f5Rudy – selection of K/127 – Kozula's breeding line Black Pear x Big zebra, I'm searching for smoky flavours

Green sleeves
Teardrop [but the fruit have different shape that Teardrop from tatiana tomatobase so something is wrong here]
Koralik
White currant
Barbaniaka
Coyote
Nsl 187099
Blue merlot downs [ I guess unstable]

in all unstable lines I'm usually saving seeds from plants that had best flavour, watching for healthy plants too..

! plant of each stable variety, more for unstable ones, I am hoping to save seeds and exchange after the season for something from my wishlist. The weather is strange this year again but I feel it might be a good tomato year..

Gardeneer · April 9, 2015

GEEZ ! Of all those in Leob's list there isn't one of the 30 varieties that I am growing.

Have a great season, Leob !

Gardeneer

loeb · April 9, 2015

Thank you. Last 2 years were awful for my tomatoes so maybe this year..

AZGardener · April 9, 2015

We have had a warm winter and spring in Phx so I transplanted around Valentines. Here is my list:

Patio Tomato that grew back from last summer. It's HUGE!!
Cherokee Purple Tomato (set 15+ tomatoes and the first BIG tomato)
Yellow Radiance Tomato
Taxi Tomato (loaded with 15+ tomatoes and its in my barrel pot)
Sweet 100 Tomato
Sungold F1 Tomato
Yellow Pear Tomato
Chocolate Stripes Tomato
Pink Honey Tomato
Pink Tuscadero Tomato
Great White Tomato
Candy Sweet Iceicle Tomato
Black Seaman Tomato
Black Verinssage Tomato
Pink Vernissage Tomato
Lemon Boy Tomato
Black Mauri Tomato
Berkeley Tie Dye Tomato
Neves Azorean Red Tomato
Southern Night Tomato
Brandywine Suddaths Pink Tomato
Black from Tula Tomato (plant grew quick starting to set) 4/5
Paul Robeson Tomato
Pampelmuse Tomato
Hazel Mae Tomato
Dragons Eye Tomato
Early Annie Tomato
Large Barred Boar Tomato (just started setting fruit) 4/5
Giant Red Pear Tomato
Dr. Lyle Tomato
Turk Mutts Tomato

loeb · April 9, 2015

Transplanting around Valentines.. a DREAM. I will transplant mine around kids day.. 1.06, maybe a week earlier.

**carolyn137** · April 9, 2015

Quote:

Originally Posted by loeb

My list this year:

Purple Pear Brandywine
Paul Robeson
Black Krim
Czekolada [probably Cherokee Chocolate, name means „Chocolate”]
Black Pear
Purple Russian
Fiolet ciemny f3 [violet dark f3 Kozula's breeding line]
Brad's purple heart
135Malinowa zebra śliwka f4 [Raspberry zebra plum f4 Kozula's 135 breeding line]
141AlbengaxCopiaf2 [Kozula's 141 breeding line, last time I got from those huge fruity bicolor]
Owocowy2011f3 ze 141 [this is f3 of 141 line, selected by me for fruity flavour, still fruit too big]
White Tomesol
White Zebra
Elite Wonder
Persimmon
Peron
139 Zielona zebra f4 [139 Kozula's line greenish zebra]
Malachite box
Grubs Green
Chile Verde

Aunt Rubys german cherry
Madara
Verde Claro
Black Cherry
Isis Candy
Cherokee Green grape
Green grape
Jaunee Flamee
Snow white cherry
Velvet Red
Burpee Supersweetf1
Megagron f6 [in US known as Megatrusses]
Polish Nightsf3
Beautiful Dreams [those are still segregating.. from Tom Wagner seeds bought 2 years ago]
Snow White x |Owocowy „f1”[ this is my cross between Snow White cherry and AlbengaxCopiaf2]
Pink snow f2[snow white x owocowy]

„Mrozoodporny” [this is selection from last year, red cherry that self-seeded in a garden where some of Tom Wagner cherries were year back; survived blight and first freeze, and now is setting fruit on my window sill.. It was very stubborn so I will check how this one perform this year]
Snow white x Angora super sweet/velver red f1
Berkeley Tie Dye Pink
Tasmanian Chocolate
Dwart Beryl Beauty
Alpatieva 905A
Orange Tree
Pearly Pink Orange
Tsar Royal Gift
Betimes Macbeth [don't know if its stable]
Kootenai
Betalux
f6 K131 determinate Kozula's paste
f5Rudy – selection of K/127 – Kozula's breeding line Black Pear x Big zebra, I'm searching for smoky flavours

Green sleeves
Teardrop [but the fruit have different shape that Teardrop from tatiana tomatobase so something is wrong here]
Koralik
White currant
Barbaniaka
Coyote
Nsl 187099
Blue merlot downs [ I guess unstable]

in all unstable lines I'm usually saving seeds from plants that had best flavour, watching for healthy plants too..

! plant of each stable variety, more for unstable ones, I am hoping to save seeds and exchange after the season for something from my wishlist. The weather is strange this year again but I feel it might be a good tomato year..

What a wonderful list and I've grown quite a few of them.

Please let me make just a few comments on some of them.

I don't think what you have is Cherokee Chocolate, here's what I think you have:

http://t.tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Chocolate

Brad Gates didn't have a purple heart, what he had was Brad's Black Heart

http://t.tatianastomatobase.com/wiki...7s_Black_Heart

White Zebra is not the correct name. It should be Blonde Boar as bred by Brad Gates.Long story here.

The correct name is Grub's Mystery Green

I can find a Tsar's Favorite but not a Tsar's Royal Gift but am wondering if you might be referring to:

http://t.tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Tsar-Kolokol

A variety I really do love.

I see you are making several crosses with Snow White, bred by Joe Bratka, whom I knew very well. He also introduced the variety Velvet Red and then changed the name to Angora Super Sweet/ I grew both and they are the same as I see it, despite the comments that Tania made:

http://t.tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Angora_Super_Sweet

I hope my comments will help and just noting that Tania's data base with pages for over 4,000 varieties is a wonderful source of information:

http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Main_Page

Carolyn

loeb · April 9, 2015

Great, thank you Carolyn

It's better for me to be sure what am I growing, to not repeat something just because of an incorrect name.
Here is Tsars Royal Gift that I have:
http://t.tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Tsarskiy_Podarok
Maybe it is Chocolate, And probably it is Brad's Black Heart, I got both from exchange.

Yes I am making crosses with Snow White, I like it a lot, wish to have Super Snow White if it tastes the same.. And I absolutely love Velvet red, bougt it as Velvet Red, and I am growing it every year, taste is very nice and the plant is beautifull. This crossing is a lot of fun.

I wish I had LA2644 - I have found it on Tania's page, I would for sure use it in come crosses.

I like all those oddities in tomatoes.. furry foliage, strange fruits, smoky flavours.. lots of fun

**carolyn137** · April 9, 2015

Quote:

Originally Posted by loeb

Great, thank you Carolyn

It's better for me to be sure what am I growing, to not repeat something just because of an incorrect name.
Here is Tsars Royal Gift that I have:
http://t.tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Tsarskiy_Podarok
Maybe it is Chocolate, And probably it is Brad's Black Heart, I got both from exchange.

Yes I am making crosses with Snow White, I like it a lot, wish to have Super Snow White if it tastes the same.. And I absolutely love Velvet red, bougt it as Velvet Red, and I am growing it every year, taste is very nice and the plant is beautifull. This crossing is a lot of fun.

I wish I had LA2644 - I have found it on Tania's page, I would for sure use it in come crosses.

I like all those oddities in tomatoes.. furry foliage, strange fruits, smoky flavours.. lots of fun

Joe bred several ivory colored cherries which include Snow White, Super Snow White, Ghost and Rabbit and all of them taste about the same.

I too love Velvet Red/Angora Super Sweet, not so much for the fruits, but more of a decorative plant. When the sun shines on the leaves, which are narrow and highly dissected, the foliage just sparkles in the sun,

For a strange fruit one you MUST grow Reisetomate, which is completely different from Riesentraube.

Here's a link:

http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Reisetomate

Small cherry tomatoes attached to a larger tomato and it's called Voyage or Traveler b/c someone somewhere said it might be good to take along on a walk or hike and just snap off cherry tomatoes as you go.

You can see fro the link that I've grown it and in seed offers quite a while ago, many years ago, I was sending seeds to others.

Carolyn

loeb · April 9, 2015

Ok I will add this Frankenmato to my wishlist

I guess I will add other Joe Bratka varietes too.. If 2 of them are among my favourites maybe more of them will be .

April 9, 2015	#172
loeb Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Poland Posts: 251	My list this year: Purple Pear Brandywine Paul Robeson Black Krim Chocolate Black Pear Purple Russian Fiolet ciemny f3 [violet dark f3 Kozula's breeding line] Brad's Black heart 135Malinowa zebra śliwka f4 [Raspberry zebra plum f4 Kozula's 135 breeding line] 141AlbengaxCopiaf2 [Kozula's 141 breeding line, last time I got from those huge fruity bicolor] Owocowy2011f3 ze 141 [this is f3 of 141 line, selected by me for fruity flavour, still fruit too big] White Tomesol Blonde Boar ["white zebra"] Elite Wonder Persimmon Peron 139 Zielona zebra f4 [139 Kozula's line greenish zebra] Malachite box Grub's Mystery Green Chile Verde Aunt Rubys german cherry Madara Verde Claro Black Cherry Isis Candy Cherokee Green grape Green grape Jaunee Flamee Snow white cherry Velvet Red Burpee Supersweetf1 Megagron f6 [in US known as Megatrusses] Polish Nightsf3 Beautiful Dreams [those are still segregating.. from Tom Wagner seeds bought 2 years ago] Snow White x \|Owocowy „f1”[ this is my cross between Snow White cherry and AlbengaxCopiaf2] Pink snow f2[snow white x owocowy] „Mrozoodporny” [this is selection from last year, red cherry that self-seeded in a garden where some of Tom Wagner cherries were year back; survived blight and first freeze, and now is setting fruit on my window sill.. It was very stubborn so I will check how this one perform this year] Snow white x Angora super sweet/velver red f1 Berkeley Tie Dye Pink Tasmanian Chocolate Dwart Beryl Beauty Alpatieva 905A Orange Tree Pearly Pink Orange Tsar Royal Gift Betimes Macbeth [don't know if its stable] Kootenai Betalux f6 K131 determinate Kozula's paste f5Rudy – selection of K/127 – Kozula's breeding line Black Pear x Big zebra, I'm searching for smoky flavours Green sleeves Teardrop [but the fruit have different shape that Teardrop from tatiana tomatobase so something is wrong here] Koralik White currant Barbaniaka Coyote Nsl 187099 Blue merlot downs [ I guess unstable] in all unstable lines I'm usually saving seeds from plants that had best flavour, watching for healthy plants too.. ! plant of each stable variety, more for unstable ones, I am hoping to save seeds and exchange after the season for something from my wishlist. The weather is strange this year again but I feel it might be a good tomato year.. Last edited by loeb; April 9, 2015 at 11:51 AM.

April 9, 2015	#175
AZGardener Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Zone 9b Phoenix,AZ Posts: 390	We have had a warm winter and spring in Phx so I transplanted around Valentines. Here is my list: Patio Tomato that grew back from last summer. It's HUGE!! Cherokee Purple Tomato (set 15+ tomatoes and the first BIG tomato) Yellow Radiance Tomato Taxi Tomato (loaded with 15+ tomatoes and its in my barrel pot) Sweet 100 Tomato Sungold F1 Tomato Yellow Pear Tomato Chocolate Stripes Tomato Pink Honey Tomato Pink Tuscadero Tomato Great White Tomato Candy Sweet Iceicle Tomato Black Seaman Tomato Black Verinssage Tomato Pink Vernissage Tomato Lemon Boy Tomato Black Mauri Tomato Berkeley Tie Dye Tomato Neves Azorean Red Tomato Southern Night Tomato Brandywine Suddaths Pink Tomato Black from Tula Tomato (plant grew quick starting to set) 4/5 Paul Robeson Tomato Pampelmuse Tomato Hazel Mae Tomato Dragons Eye Tomato Early Annie Tomato Large Barred Boar Tomato (just started setting fruit) 4/5 Giant Red Pear Tomato Dr. Lyle Tomato Turk Mutts Tomato __________________ Kelly from Phx, AZ Toes and Tomatoes on FB

April 9, 2015	#178
loeb Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Poland Posts: 251	Great, thank you Carolyn It's better for me to be sure what am I growing, to not repeat something just because of an incorrect name. Here is Tsars Royal Gift that I have: http://t.tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Tsarskiy_Podarok Maybe it is Chocolate, And probably it is Brad's Black Heart, I got both from exchange. Yes I am making crosses with Snow White, I like it a lot, wish to have Super Snow White if it tastes the same.. And I absolutely love Velvet red, bougt it as Velvet Red, and I am growing it every year, taste is very nice and the plant is beautifull. This crossing is a lot of fun. I wish I had LA2644 - I have found it on Tania's page, I would for sure use it in come crosses. I like all those oddities in tomatoes.. furry foliage, strange fruits, smoky flavours.. lots of fun Last edited by loeb; April 9, 2015 at 11:37 AM.

March 30, 2015	#166
Gardeneer Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: NC - zone 8a - heat zone 7 Posts: 4,915	Good selection, drbob . And have a good season ! Gardeneer

March 30, 2015	#167
drbobintx Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Round Rock, TX Posts: 20	Thanks Gardeneer. Likewise! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

March 30, 2015	#168
MrBig46 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Czech republic Posts: 2,529	Carolyn, I also occasionally shopped at the Estonian site. But now respond to a request for Russian seeds as follows: Директивы ЕС, к сожалению, теперь не позволяют ввоз российских семян ( EU directives, unfortunately, no longer allow the import of Russian seeds). I will have to look for another source of Russian seeds. Vladimír

April 9, 2015	#173
Gardeneer Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: NC - zone 8a - heat zone 7 Posts: 4,915	GEEZ ! Of all those in Leob's list there isn't one of the 30 varieties that I am growing. Have a great season, Leob ! Gardeneer

April 9, 2015	#174
loeb Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Poland Posts: 251	Thank you. Last 2 years were awful for my tomatoes so maybe this year..

April 9, 2015	#176
loeb Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Poland Posts: 251	Transplanting around Valentines.. a DREAM. I will transplant mine around kids day.. 1.06, maybe a week earlier.

April 9, 2015	#180
loeb Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Poland Posts: 251	Ok I will add this Frankenmato to my wishlist I guess I will add other Joe Bratka varietes too.. If 2 of them are among my favourites maybe more of them will be .