KBX et al

[amideutch]

Here is some more pictures and probably won't be much more as the season is winding down. KBX sliced,KBX on the vine, Earl's Faux on the vine, plants growing in my modified GH side view with KBX in the middle and front view showing Brandywine sudduth RL on the right and Mariana's Conflict on the left. Ami

[shelleybean]

Gorgeous! I'm very jealous! My season ended early due to disease.

[dcarch]

Very nice pics.
Very nice looking setup/support system.
I believe firmly that tomato growing does not have to look messy.

8)

dcarch

[Tomstrees]

Good growin !!! Ami - I "need" KBX seed !!!
Could you hook a brutha up ??? ~ lol

~ Tom

[amideutch]

Shelleybean, stay tuned as I will post in the disease and pest forum later on what worked for me.
dcarch, thanks and that be one of the advantages growing in containers. Using plant clips on strings suspended from the top really works well.
Tomstrees, You got mail.
Ami

[tomatoaddict]

That KBX is one beautiful tomato Ami.....
Your Belmonte are in the mail....

[Patrina_Pepperina]

Your pic of KBX brings a little tear to my eye Ami. Yesterday I went outside to see how my KBX was growing and I couldn't find it - totally eaten away with nothing but a piece of stem left!!! I was hoping to use it as a parent for a cross in the dwarf project, but this is my second year of disaster with it

PP

[carolyn137]

Your Belmonte are in the mail....

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Terry. is Belmonte grown much here in the US, or available here? I think this is the first time I've seen someone mention it.

I ask b'c I was sent some seeds for it from a commercial pack someone brought back from Italy.

And I have such limited room I didn't know whether to go ahead with it or not for an SSE listing/sharing b'c in the 2007 Yearbook there is no Belmonte listed in the red section.

What did you think of it?

[tomatoaddict]

Carolyn

I had a heck of a time getting seed for Belmonte. There is no commercial vendor here in the States. My seed was sent to me by different seedmen from Europe. They rate it a 10/10!! It will be grown next year in my garden.
I know of only one person here in the U.S. that grew it out this year and they are going to list it in the '08 yearbook. I won't bother saying who that is because I know from personal experience that they will not give out seed for it.
Here is a photo of one grown by Tomodori

[carolyn137]

That's what I thouoght, not availableas here in the US.

So I'll put it on my list of growouts for next summer for the 09 Yearbook and possibly sharing here as I did with the ones newly listed by me in the 07 Yearbook and which I may do for a coupkle of the new ones I'm listing for the 08 Yearbook. Time will tell.

I didn't even open the pack of seeds he sent to see how many Belmonte seeds were there for he just took some out of the commercial pack he was sent, but they are OP and presumably an heirloom from the info I got by Googling.

[tomatoaddict]

Yes, it is an OP and heirloom from the region of Calabria.
Apparently this tomato is famous in that area.

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by tomatoaddict

Yes, it is an OP and heirloom from the region of Calabria.
Apparently this tomato is famous in that area.

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Yup, but doubter that I am I have to ask why it only showed up commercially this past year.

I know, grown in Calabria for 100 years by the Belmonte family and someone walks by the garden, sees the fruit, asks for one, loves it, saves seeds, and there you go.

Why oh why do I doubt some histories? I think it started when Chuck Wyatt got the variety___________ sent to him, I'll remember it later, and the history said grown for 400 years in Italy. Now that takes it back to the 1600's and that's pushing it re introduction of RED tomatoes into Italy.

Oh yes, I do know this thread is about KBX, which I do love.

[tomatoaddict]

Legitimate question Carolyn. I too detest fake tomato histories. I have no idea why it is just showing up. I first saw it on the European site.
I'm sure as time wears on we will find out more about it.
Another one that I couldn't find here was Liguria. Another Italian heirloom that I went crazy looking for. Also not available here.

[carpi]

although i'm quite new to the tomato world, i am Italian, so maybe its easier for me to get informations about italian heirlooms
Belmonte is not the name of a family, it's the name of a village in Calabria
Apparently the tomato came from the US: an italian emigrant named Gaspare Presta went to Rochester (NY) in 1930s and sent seeds back home in Calabria, where the variety got some popularity
The Belmonte variety got official recognitions here, so I dont think its a totally fake story
about Liguria, i cant find much: it seems to be a new variety, probably OP but still under registration( http://www.isisementi.com/Pdf/Pomodoro%20da%20Mensa%20IT-EN%20Dic.%202007(1).pdf )
i think the true heirloom is called cuore di bue ligure or pomodoro di Albenga (a town in Liguria region)
i could probably find some seeds, if you are interested

[tomatoaddict]

Wow, thanks for the info Carpi. I am growing both Belmonte and Liguria this year. I didn't have any history on either one.
What tomatoes are you growing this year?