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Old January 28, 2007   #1
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Default Paradajz Volovsko Srce Val

Hello:

Need help to translate a packet of seeds!

Received a packet of tomato seed from a trader in Slovenia. The seed company's name is Semenarna Ljubljana. The seed variety is "Paradajz Volovsko Srce Val".

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Old January 28, 2007   #2
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Hello:

Need help to translate a packet of seeds!

Received a packet of tomato seed from a trader in Slovenia. The seed company's name is Semenarna Ljubljana. The seed variety is "Paradajz Volovsko Srce Val".

Appreciate All Help!

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If I am to guess, Paradajz might be a vendor or source name, and 'Volovsko Srce' translates 'Bull's Heart'

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Old January 28, 2007   #3
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I think "Paradajz" means "Tomato".
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I think "Paradajz" means "Tomato".
duh!!! of course!
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Hope the pic helps!

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I think the pic says it all!
(It's even translated right on the packet.) :wink:
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Hi:

I know the packet states Oxheart! Though what variety of Oxheart? There are many different Oxhearts...

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Maybe "Val"...
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Thank-you bcday!

I just finished getting a e-mail, stating it was a Russian Oxheart...

Thanks again for your help!

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This is a well-known Russian tomato variety Volov'e Serdtse (~Oxheart in English translation).

I don't know why they add Val at the end, but again it's not good to use translated in English name like Oxheart Val or Oxheart or Russian Oxheart.

The original name is Volov'e Serdtse :wink:
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Andrey,

Superior Seed company in Serbia carries Volovsko Srce which translate into Oxheart. I have a picture of it but cannot figure out how to post it here.
Anyway the shape of the fruit is not like the one pictured on the Slovenian packet. That picture resembles what I believe to a Bull's Heart which I was told is Russian. I have grown both and they are not the same tomato!!!
To add to the confusion I also have an Italian tomato called the Heart of the Bull and there are quite a few other varities that use the Oxheart or Bull's Heart designation and quite often interchange them.

Would you or anyone else know what the difference is between a Bull's Heart and an Oxheart?

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As far I know Superior Seeds is not the originator of most the varieties they offer :wink:

There were times before 1991 when USSR and SFRY (Socialistic Federal Republic of Yugosvalia), two Slavic brothers, made friendship very tight so I'm not confused at all that this company are still offering some Russian varieties

Bytch'e Serdtse (which you tend to call Bull's Heart, but it is not correct since this is just an English translation of original name) and Volov'e Serdtse are two different varieties.

Fruit of Volov'e Serdte is usually much bigger than fruit from Bytch'e Sedtse. Also the shape of Volov'e Serdte is a wide true conical and fruit of Bytch'e Serdte is a common heart shaped which is not so wide. More to say Bytch'e Serdtse usually bears a true large fruits (300-500 g) only on the first and second truss and can bear you a lot of irregular and smaller fruits on the other trusses (50-200 g). Fruits of Volov'e Serdtse are more standard large oxhearts :wink:

I know about Italian variety Cuore de Bue (or something like that) which is performing very similar to our Bytch'e Serdtse, but it's really difficult now to say who was the first with one of them (Russia or Italy)
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"Paradajz Volovsko Srce Val".
It means : Tomato ox heart type VAL. It is registred in EU (European Union) as Slovenian Tomato.
Here you can find the facts:
http://www.gnis.fr/index/action/page/id/467
Just type tomate and slovenie and you will get this:
http://www.gnis.fr/index/action/page...tdate/31-12-03
There are several diferent type of oxheart tomato and VAL is just one of them.
Oxheart is just the shape , means that is heart shaped and the real name of this slovenian tomato is VAL.

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As far I know Superior Seeds is not the originator of most the varieties they offer :wink:

There were times before 1991 when USSR and SFRY (Socialistic Federal Republic of Yugosvalia), two Slavic brothers, made friendship very tight so I'm not confused at all that this company are still offering some Russian varieties

Fruit of Volov'e Serdte is usually much bigger than fruit from Bytch'e Sedtse. Also the shape of Volov'e Serdte is a wide true conical and fruit of Bytch'e Serdte is a common heart shaped which is not so wide. More to say Bytch'e Serdtse usually bears a true large fruits (300-500 g) only on the first and second truss and can bear you a lot of irregular and smaller fruits on the other trusses (50-200 g). Fruits of Volov'e Serdtse are more standard large oxhearts :wink:

I know about Italian variety Cuore de Bue (or something like that) which is performing very similar to our Bytch'e Serdtse, but it's really difficult now to say who was the first with one of them (Russia or Italy)
I have (and have grown) seeds of Bawole Serce from PNOS Ożarów Mazowiecki, and Carolyn told that the variety is the same as Sertse Buivola (PNOS O.M. has a Russian text on the packet which says Serdtse Buibola, but the "Buibola" looks like an error). Some of the Polish vendors also mention "Cuor di Bue" as an alternative name along with the fruit type "Oxheart", and they are not quite clear in describing the colour (red, pink, pinkish red or reddish pink), but I guess I can settle that by looking at the epidermis.
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