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Old September 19, 2011   #1
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Default AVOID Penny's Tomatoes and Pepper Joe's!

Advertised as above, or Pennys Tomatoes and Pepper Joe's. I got a few seeds from them, but won't grow till next spring. Does anyone else have experience with them?

http://www.pennystomatoes.com/

http://pepperjoe.com/
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Old September 19, 2011   #2
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Advertised as above, or Pennys Tomatoes and Pepper Joe's. I got a few seeds from them, but won't grow till next spring. Does anyone else have experience with them?

http://www.pennystomatoes.com/

http://www.pepperjoe.com/
No experience whatsoever but I took the time to look over the tomato varieties and speaking just for myself I wouldn't order from her.

There are pictures that have been scanned from other sites that I recognized, one being from the public SSE catalog. That is illegal.

Looking at some pictures I know what they are but she's renamed them and I have absolutely nothing to do with someone who does that just to make something look unique/special.

$3 for 20 seeds for who knows what you're getting when there are so many wonderful seed sites with known varieties and lower prices raises yet another issue for me.
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Ty's Taxi? Pennsylvania Great White? I find the website quite Amishland-ish in its stretches, if not price gouging (Cherokee Purple - Cherokee Indians grew them for hundreds of years?) Yikes! - lots of misinformation.....where to start? (I guess I already did!)
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I'm going to have to agree, the site looks a little shady to me.
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Old September 20, 2011   #5
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Not questioning generosity, or even seed quality. It is integrity - one of the key aspects of heirloom tomato growing is respecting the history and passing it on as accurate. The proliferation of many seed companies has led to competition that seems to push many to stretch the truth, change names or fabricate information. Not good at all.
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Ok, I went to look and see what might be wrong over there. Her photo of 'The Shooting Star' tomato is a photo of 'Red Star'. I remembered the photo from the Totally Tomato catalog. http://www.totallytomato.com/dp.asp?...ed+Star+Tomato . Renaming tomatoes like Red Star is not a good business practice.
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So...could....

Two Timing Willie be Box Car Willie?
Good Old Abe Lincoln is probably Abraham Lincoln
anyone heard of Midnight Star?
Black Forest?
Sunshine Heirloom - is it Sunray?
Ty's Taxi is likely Taxi
Pennsylvania Great White is likely Great White
Penny's Persimmon....is probably Persimmon
could Penny's Striped Green be....Green zebra?
Golden Marzano or Roman Candle - if it is Roman Candle, why Golden Marzano?

The problem is that people who purchase the mis-named or renamed or whatever varieties will, if they save seeds and pass them on, use the new names.

For goodness sake, if you look at the current state of the SSE Yearbook, it is clear that we don't need any more names for tomatoes....what we need is to honor the names that they already have!

Arggggh.......
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Cherry Candy = Isis Candy
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OMG. The site offers a load of misinformation and re-named varieties.

Unbelievable!
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Perhaps Amishland has been renamed as Penny's Tomatoes ?

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I'm going to have to agree, the site looks a little shady to me.
I'm more inclined to say silly. The site looks like a kid designed it and the over use of her name gets very old very fast.

Other sites rename or misname tomatoes. Some just make a better impression doing it. Gary Ibsen comes to mind.

I've bought many of my seeds from the guy on ebay selling "Russian Black Cherry". I don't sweat the odd names that much because all of the seed I've gotten from him germinated and seemed to be what he said it was as far as I could tell.

Silly is enough to keep me buying from a vendor though. Penny hits me as too much of a gamble to deal with. I'd buy the 20¢ seeds at Wally-World before I'd get anything from her.

I've got a few people on line I buy from and High Mowing is just a short drive away.
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Well, since I already get overwhelmed with the massive variety of heirlooms out there, making new names would just confuse me more lol....I think we have plenty enough thanks.

20 cent seeds? wow...I've never seen anything in my area for less than 1.50 and that was at Wally World. I've purchased from several vendors this year including Tatanias, Tomatofest, Victory and Remy's Sample Seed Shop. I'm quite happy with the selection they've offered and the service too

I just went and looked at the site and it would seem the names look okay now, (in my very limited experience that is) perhaps they realized having some fun with names wasn't really appropriate in this situation.... eg: Box Car Willie is now Box Car Willie

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Well, since I already get overwhelmed with the massive variety of heirlooms out there, making new names would just confuse me more lol....I think we have plenty enough thanks.

20 cent seeds? wow...I've never seen anything in my area for less than 1.50 and that was at Wally World. I've purchased from several vendors this year including Tatanias, Tomatofest, Victory and Remy's Sample Seed Shop. I'm quite happy with the selection they've offered and the service too

I just went and looked at the site and it would seem the names look okay now, (in my very limited experience that is) perhaps they realized having some fun with names wasn't really appropriate in this situation.... eg: Box Car Willie is now Box Car Willie
Which suggests to me that maybe Penny herself is a Tville member.

I'll go check it out again when I have some free time to see what changes have been made as to names and pictures.
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She may just have a Google alert set up to notify her of any web activity related to the name. I would imagine if she were an active TVille member, she'd be more sensitive to the importance of proper naming, etc.

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I'm more inclined to say silly. The site looks like a kid designed it and the over use of her name gets very old very fast.



Funny you say that, I was thinking the same thing. All she needs now is to have a talking tomato named penny for some kid show to come on PBS after Dora the Explorer.
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Actually, I was able to determine that and several better known sites as places to avoid. Tville is a wonderful learning place! My thanks to all who contribute and make it happen. LInda
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