miracle grow pro fertilizer?

FILMNET · July 4, 2013

Every year i use this in early summer for my tomato plants, only once a year. My plants have had a lot or rain and now 3-5 days of sun 8-11hrs and heat is coming.I have 6 plants with flowers and they are only 10" high.I have only use fish food this summer.

feldon30 · July 4, 2013

Is this a confession? Like eating McDonald's.

FILMNET · July 4, 2013

Yes i fell terrible about this. i need to go to church!!

crazyoldgooseman · July 6, 2013

I use manure compost and Jobes tomato spikes at planting then Miracle Grow Tomato Fertilizer later in the summer because its easy to put inline with my drip system. That's what I do for what it is worth. Feels good to finally confess.

tomatoguy · July 9, 2013

I don't use anything with the Miracle-Gro brand name on it. My experiences have been universally negative. If you want to grow tomato plants for foliage alone, though, it is indeed miraculous.

mater

raindrops27 · July 9, 2013

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Originally Posted by FILMNET

Every year i use this in early summer for my tomato plants, only once a year. My plants have had a lot or rain and now 3-5 days of sun 8-11hrs and heat is coming.I have 6 plants with flowers and they are only 10" high.I have only use fish food this summer.

Filmnet,

I say use what works best for you..

edweather · July 9, 2013

Wow. Miracle Gro hooked up directly to a slow drip. Now I'm getting excited :-) Easy on the MG criticism. The All Purpose liquid is just a 3-1-2 ratio, and very good for containers. I use all types of fertilizers.

FILMNET · July 10, 2013

This is MC Pro very strong used and sold to stores only a few yrs ago. A friend had this it is used in stores to get flowers and plants looking nice, then at home they went down or died. I was learning about how they get the plants looking so nice.

Lowlander · July 10, 2013

Mater Magic!!! that stuff is awesome but at $5/small jug, it gets pricey if you have a bunch of plants. That and OCCASSIONAL application of something we got from a guy who works at one of the university agricultural depts. (he said something along the lines of 40-40-40 but I can't remember the specifics). He simply told us to use it very sparingly as it was industrial strength.

FILMNET · July 10, 2013

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Originally Posted by Lowlander

Mater Magic!!! that stuff is awesome but at $5/small jug, it gets pricey if you have a bunch of plants. That and OCCASSIONAL application of something we got from a guy who works at one of the university agricultural depts. (he said something along the lines of 40-40-40 but I can't remember the specifics). He simply told us to use it very sparingly as it was industrial strength.

Yes i remember the package it had numbers like around 35, 40s. blew me away when i read it. The friend who had it got it from his mother, she had it from 1980s. He but it on plants in pots and the plant were crazy.

feldon30 · July 10, 2013

MG is a byproduct of the petroleum refining process. Yum!

FILMNET · July 10, 2013

Just found it on Goggle MG Nursery Select
I swear mine was stronger though!
24-8-16

Redbaron · July 10, 2013

24-8-16 is horrible for tomatoes. You'll be better off with 8-24-16 especially at fruit set time.

Higher nitrogen is ok in early spring when tomatoes are in their growth phase (with-in reason), but not good at all when they start blooming.

Tomatoguy had it exactly right "If you want to grow tomato plants for foliage alone, though, it is indeed miraculous."

Personally I prefer slow release organic ferts so I don't have to add anything. And if I do think they need a boost, I have some low nitrogen fish emulsion 2-5-3

Read this link back in 1934 about Rutgers. New Jersey State Horticultural Society News

Notice page 2 "... growers should not apply as much nitrogen early in the season ... If fertilized in the same manner as Pritchard, the vines may be too rank and the fruit will be late in setting and developing" so this has been known a very long time.

Now this was talking about the differences between cultivars. However, ANY tomato regardless of type can be over fertilized with nitrogen and end up with the same effect........It is just that heavy foliage cultivars, the effect is more critical and a HUGE number of cultivars have Rutgers in their parentage. Just something to think about. Not only that but it also subjects the plants to increased disease and insect damage. Probably the biggest mistake new growers make IMHO.

FILMNET · July 10, 2013

Thanks guys, I am organic Neptune's Harvest and my kitchen compost, Espoma also. But i put 6 plants in late because someone was eating my plants, i put 16 plants in May24. By June 20 I had only 11, the 6 plants i bought were Cherokee Purple plants. And they were in small 6 plants,so June 30 i put the Mg on them. There plants are in ground June 1, to Aug 30.

TomatoDon · July 11, 2013

I think it was discussed here a few years back, Feldon. You were probably a member by then and remember it. I didn't know MG was a byproduct of petroleum processing, but it was stated here that it is a salt. I believe I have that correct.

Logic and conventional wisdom says this stuff should not work and if it did, it should be bad for you. Yet this is probably the most popular selling form of backyard gardeners and flower growers. It grows plants like crazy and I've never heard of an ill-effect from it when used correctly.

I do love TomatoTone, though. And Alaskan fish oil.

July 4, 2013	#1
FILMNET Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: North Charleston,South Carolina, USA Posts: 1,803	miracle grow pro fertilizer? Every year i use this in early summer for my tomato plants, only once a year. My plants have had a lot or rain and now 3-5 days of sun 8-11hrs and heat is coming.I have 6 plants with flowers and they are only 10" high.I have only use fish food this summer.

July 4, 2013	#2
feldon30 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2006 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 5,346	Is this a confession? Like eating McDonald's. __________________ [SIZE="3"]I've relaunched my gardening website -- [B]TheUnconventionalTomato.com[/B][/SIZE] * [I][SIZE="1"]*I'm not allowed to post weblinks so you'll have to copy-paste it manually.[/SIZE][/I]

July 6, 2013	#4
crazyoldgooseman Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Southern Maryland 7a Posts: 200	I use manure compost and Jobes tomato spikes at planting then Miracle Grow Tomato Fertilizer later in the summer because its easy to put inline with my drip system. That's what I do for what it is worth. Feels good to finally confess. __________________ Anybody see where I sat my beer? -crazyoldgooseman

July 9, 2013	#7
edweather Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Southeast GA, USDA 9a, HZ9, Sunset Z28 Posts: 396	Wow. Miracle Gro hooked up directly to a slow drip. Now I'm getting excited :-) Easy on the MG criticism. The All Purpose liquid is just a 3-1-2 ratio, and very good for containers. I use all types of fertilizers. __________________ You'll be surprised what you'll never have to do, if you put it off long enough.

July 10, 2013	#11
feldon30 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2006 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 5,346	MG is a byproduct of the petroleum refining process. Yum! __________________ [SIZE="3"]I've relaunched my gardening website -- [B]TheUnconventionalTomato.com[/B][/SIZE] * [I][SIZE="1"]*I'm not allowed to post weblinks so you'll have to copy-paste it manually.[/SIZE][/I]

July 9, 2013	#5
tomatoguy Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Rockvale, TN Zone 7A Posts: 526	I don't use anything with the Miracle-Gro brand name on it. My experiences have been universally negative. If you want to grow tomato plants for foliage alone, though, it is indeed miraculous. mater

July 10, 2013	#9
Lowlander Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Eastern Shore of Maryland Posts: 76	Mater Magic!!! that stuff is awesome but at $5/small jug, it gets pricey if you have a bunch of plants. That and OCCASSIONAL application of something we got from a guy who works at one of the university agricultural depts. (he said something along the lines of 40-40-40 but I can't remember the specifics). He simply told us to use it very sparingly as it was industrial strength.

July 10, 2013	#13
Redbaron Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 4,488	24-8-16 is horrible for tomatoes. You'll be better off with 8-24-16 especially at fruit set time. Higher nitrogen is ok in early spring when tomatoes are in their growth phase (with-in reason), but not good at all when they start blooming. Tomatoguy had it exactly right "If you want to grow tomato plants for foliage alone, though, it is indeed miraculous." Personally I prefer slow release organic ferts so I don't have to add anything. And if I do think they need a boost, I have some low nitrogen fish emulsion 2-5-3 Read this link back in 1934 about Rutgers. New Jersey State Horticultural Society News Notice page 2 "... growers should not apply as much nitrogen early in the season ... If fertilized in the same manner as Pritchard, the vines may be too rank and the fruit will be late in setting and developing" so this has been known a very long time. Now this was talking about the differences between cultivars. However, ANY tomato regardless of type can be over fertilized with nitrogen and end up with the same effect........It is just that heavy foliage cultivars, the effect is more critical and a HUGE number of cultivars have Rutgers in their parentage. Just something to think about. Not only that but it also subjects the plants to increased disease and insect damage. Probably the biggest mistake new growers make IMHO. __________________ Scott AKA The Redbaron "Permaculture is a philosophy of working with, rather than against nature; of protracted & thoughtful observation rather than protracted & thoughtless labour; & of looking at plants & animals in all their functions, rather than treating any area as a single-product system." Bill Mollison co-founder of permaculture Last edited by Redbaron; July 10, 2013 at 04:41 PM. Reason: add link and description for reference.

July 11, 2013	#15
TomatoDon Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: MS Posts: 1,521	I think it was discussed here a few years back, Feldon. You were probably a member by then and remember it. I didn't know MG was a byproduct of petroleum processing, but it was stated here that it is a salt. I believe I have that correct. Logic and conventional wisdom says this stuff should not work and if it did, it should be bad for you. Yet this is probably the most popular selling form of backyard gardeners and flower growers. It grows plants like crazy and I've never heard of an ill-effect from it when used correctly. I do love TomatoTone, though. And Alaskan fish oil. __________________ Zone 7B, N. MS