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Old 4 Days Ago   #16
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It is still early in the season and some of the varieties are just starting to ripen. I am already making some observations on some of the new varieties and am finding a problem with one that is a favorite of mine that had crossed in my saved seeds so I ordered replacement seed. The problem I am seeing is on my Marianne's Peace I have both regular leaf and potato leaf plants from the seed. On St. Teresa I have two distinctly different tomatoes showing up as they grow. One is a large beefsteak while the other plant is a large plant producing plum shaped tomatoes.

I am planting pairs of the same varieties side by side as much as I can so I can easily compare them if there are major differences in some of the plants. So far most of the others seem to be true but I still have some that haven't produced yet due to the late planting.

I did notice one very interesting variety St. Lucie is the most densely foliaged plant that I have ever seen. Even with suckers pruned and single stem it is so dense you can't see the fruit except by parting the leaves. I have two of them side by side and single stem aggressively pruned yet they look like barrels of solid green leaves. It would certainly be a candidate where sun-scald is an issue if it does well in the heat which is yet to be determined. I will be interested in whether this super dense foliage creates disease issues down here where air flow is so important in preventing disease.

My Cuostrale plants both have huge first clusters and I fear I won't get any large fruit from those clusters. The tomatoes are starting to ripen on some varieties and these clusters are certainly looking like they should have been culled some.

I have only gotten to sample one of the new varieties so far and that was Italian Tree which was earlier to ripen a couple of fruits than any of my plants. It had an excellent well balanced flavor that really topped a grilled hamburger well.

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Mexican for me was a very bland tomato. Earl's Faux, Cuostralee, and Brandywine OTV have regular places in my garden... for very good reason.


IMO, Marianna's peace can be a very good tomato if properly grown. Do you have seed from me? or were they from Ibsen? Ibsen's seed often produced fluted shoulder fruit with less flavor potential.


I have had very good results with crosses involving Eva Purple Ball. It carries two highly important traits with very small core and very high production and tends to produce offspring that express these traits.


You have stretched your net very wide trying to find good tasting tomatoes. There are quite a few more that need to be tried as grafts.


Have you grown:
Daniels
Crnkovic Yugoslavian
Lynnwood
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Mexican for me was a very bland tomato. Earl's Faux, Cuostralee, and Brandywine OTV have regular places in my garden... for very good reason.


IMO, Marianna's peace can be a very good tomato if properly grown. Do you have seed from me? or were they from Ibsen? Ibsen's seed often produced fluted shoulder fruit with less flavor potential.


I have had very good results with crosses involving Eva Purple Ball. It carries two highly important traits with very small core and very high production and tends to produce offspring that express these traits.


You have stretched your net very wide trying to find good tasting tomatoes. There are quite a few more that need to be tried as grafts.


Have you grown:
Daniels
Crnkovic Yugoslavian
Lynnwood
I sure hope you are wrong about Mexican because I have 3 plants going. If there is one thing I don't like about a tomato it is blandness. I have crossed hundreds off my list due to what I consider bland. The other two important considerations are whether I can coax it to set a fair amount of fruit in this heat and whether it is juicy. I just don't care for relatively dry tomatoes although they are nice when making sauce.

I can't recall if I got my MP from you or not. I got it over ten years ago when it was rare. It was a terrific tomato and had smooth shoulders with really nice well balanced old fashioned flavor. As a result of crossing, my seed now produce a mix of either pink or red tomatoes that are usually fairly small and bland so I am getting rid of the seed and if I can't find a good replacement Marianna's Peace I'll just nix it from my list of must grows.

I haven't grown Lynnwood or Daniels if memory serves me right but Cy is a regular. There are just too many tomatoes to try and at my age I am fast running out of time to try them. This is the first year in a long time where I dedicated most of my growing space to varieties that I haven't had a taste of. I decided to cut back on hot peppers, squash, and will no longer grow melons due to the nematode problems, so I had a bit of free space.

Some of the new varieties I am trying like Cuostralee and Earl's Faux were highly recommended to me years ago but my fusarium problems made growing them impossible until I learned to graft. I am still culling my varieties but still wanted a few more top flight slicers if I can find them.

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