WHAT IS YA'LLS OPINION ON THESE VARIETIES

GIZZARDFARM · December 16, 2008

I AM CONSIDERING ORDERING THESE FOUR TYPES THAT IVE NEVER GROWN BEFORE, BUT BEFORE I DO I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM YOU FOLKS ABOUT THEIR PEODUCTIVITY AND MOST IMPORTANTLY TASTE..
AMANA ORANGE,STUPICE, BLACK PLUM, AND MONEY MAKER..THANKS GIZZARD

grungy · December 16, 2008

Have grown the first three and were impressed with the production and flavor.

Wi-sunflower · December 16, 2008

I've grown the Black Plum and love it. Flavor is good to me. It's about large Grape size but not as big as Juliet. Productive like cherrys are.

I like Stupice too. It's quite early tho rather small, maybe a bit bigger than a golf ball.

camochef · December 17, 2008

I've grown Stupice for the first time this year. Had two of them, they produced many hundreds of small tomatoes, larger than a ping pong ball but smaller than a tennis ball. Very prolific, but they tasted rather bland. I have no intention of growing it again this year as there are so many better tasting tomatoes out there to choose from.
They might do better down your way, this was also a very bad year for tomatoes here in my area!
Camo

Lomatia · December 17, 2008

Have grown all of them but gave Stupice the flick probably for the same reasons as Camo. Always grow Black Plum as has good flavour, size and is prolific. MM is a good reliable tom here in Oz and a popular size and AO has good flavour but is a bit thin-skinned which doesn't worry me a lot.

**carolyn137** · December 17, 2008

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Originally Posted by GIZZARDFARM

I AM CONSIDERING ORDERING THESE FOUR TYPES THAT IVE NEVER GROWN BEFORE, BUT BEFORE I DO I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM YOU FOLKS ABOUT THEIR PEODUCTIVITY AND MOST IMPORTANTLY TASTE..
AMANA ORANGE,STUPICE, BLACK PLUM, AND MONEY MAKER..THANKS GIZZARD

I've grown all four.

Amana Orange is what I grew until Kellogg's Breakfast appeared and then more recently a PL version of KB appeared which I think is even better, so I'd grow KB for better taste than Amana Orange and KBX, the PL version of KB if available. All three have always been productive for me but I prefer KB for taste.

Stupice puts out lots of fruits and is pretty early, but for a bit better taste I think I'd grow Matina, a lookalike, for better taste and also consider Kimberley as well. All are very productive but I think that taste is best with Matina.

Black PLum is also very productive but I just do not like the taste of it.

Moneymaker is an old British variety and while it produces well I don't like the taste of it or any of the older British varieties.

Just my personal opinions about taste.

daylilydude · December 17, 2008

Black Plum production machine...

gssgarden · December 17, 2008

Stupice has never been bland for me and always the first one picked. I think it was a wonderful taste. Production is off the charts. Great salad tomato or just shoving one in your mouth while bringing others to the kitchen.

Have it almost every year.

Greg

Worth1 · December 17, 2008

I have tried to grow Amana Orange 3 times and don't have a good opinion of it, it just doesn't do well for (((ME))) here in Texas.
Kelloggs Breakfast is a much better choice.
Just blow off all of the hype about Amana Orange and grow the latter, you wont be sorry.
Black plum was grown for the first time last year and I am very happy with it.
It put out fruit all summer long, that alone says a lot for me and it.
A real must grow for the south.

You should also try Home Stead and or Break O Day

If you havent grown Cherokee Purple you simply must grow this tomato you wont be sorry.

Just remember some of the folks that like or dislike tomatoes are very far from you and that alone will make a differance in productivety and taste due to climate.

Worth

camochef · December 17, 2008

I have to agree with Caroline and worth1, Kellogg's Breakfast is a great tomato! Creamy texture, wonderful taste. I discovered last year that the amount of water it gets makes a difference. The first year I grew it, the early ones tasted great but as the summer progressed they got somewhat mushy tasting. Then I realized that many that raved about it were in dryer climates. So this past year I withheld water from them until they showed they needed it and they did much better throughout the entire year. They became my favorite Yellow/orange tomato. Dr. Wyche's Yellow is the other favorite. ( I do plant my tomatoes much deeper than most people do).
Camo

sic transit gloria · December 17, 2008

If you want an early salad-type, I recommend Aurora. I agree with the others, Stupice is fine, but the flavor isn't quite as good as Aurora.

I've grown Amana Orange and I would also recommend KBX (the PL version of Kellogg's Breakfast) as being better flavored. Also, KB (or KBX) have always finished the year strong for me, putting out tomatoes when others have trailed off.

I haven't grown the others, so I have no comment.

Here's the bottom line: everyone has their favorite varieties, and certain varieties seem to do better in different soils/temperatures/humidities/etc. I say, grow all four on your list AND KBX, Matina, Aurora, etc. and see what does best for *you*. Keep in mind, though: from year to year, the same variety can taste and perform very differently. There are some consistently good ones, but I've had varieties taste great one year and average the next. Is it the variety? Probably not. It's most likely the conditions. For this reason, I try to grow a given variety twice before cast my ballot.

**Dukerdawg** · December 17, 2008

I have only grown Stupice, and only once, but I wasn't impresssed. It was early and productive, but half of the tomato had a green shoulder, and not being very big to begin with you had to cut off half of the 'mater and there wasn't much left. Flavor was only so-so as well for me.

I have never heard anything good about Moneymaker. Ever. So why bother? With that said, I'm sure someone will chime in how great it was for them@!

Duane

GIZZARDFARM · December 17, 2008

Thanksy folks, i have grown KBX and cherokee purple and they will always be in my garden. I have never grown KB but intend to this year. I think ill try the black plum and stupice and leave the others alone. Gizzard

montanamato · December 17, 2008

I agree on Aurora....Much larger and better tasting than Stupice. Mano and Slava were both better tasting and more productive in my garden than Stupice too.

Jeanne

creister · December 17, 2008

I agree with worth, Break o Day is hard to beat. Sioux is another early red with high production, and great taste. I would grow it before stupice. It is only about a week or so later.

December 16, 2008	#1
GIZZARDFARM Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: COMFORT TENNESSEE Posts: 300	WHAT IS YA'LLS OPINION ON THESE VARIETIES I AM CONSIDERING ORDERING THESE FOUR TYPES THAT IVE NEVER GROWN BEFORE, BUT BEFORE I DO I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM YOU FOLKS ABOUT THEIR PEODUCTIVITY AND MOST IMPORTANTLY TASTE.. AMANA ORANGE,STUPICE, BLACK PLUM, AND MONEY MAKER..THANKS GIZZARD

December 17, 2008	#7
daylilydude Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2006 Location: Iuka, Mississippi Zone 7b Posts: 482	Black Plum production machine... __________________ Richard

December 17, 2008	#12
Dukerdawg Growing for Market Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Westland, Michigan Posts: 861	I have only grown Stupice, and only once, but I wasn't impresssed. It was early and productive, but half of the tomato had a green shoulder, and not being very big to begin with you had to cut off half of the 'mater and there wasn't much left. Flavor was only so-so as well for me. I have never heard anything good about Moneymaker. Ever. So why bother? With that said, I'm sure someone will chime in how great it was for them@! Duane __________________ May I aspire to live my life so that I may be the man my dog thinks I am.

December 16, 2008	#2
grungy Tomatovillian™ Honoree Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wynndel, BC, CANADA Posts: 78	Have grown the first three and were impressed with the production and flavor.

December 16, 2008	#3
Wi-sunflower Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 2,591	I've grown the Black Plum and love it. Flavor is good to me. It's about large Grape size but not as big as Juliet. Productive like cherrys are. I like Stupice too. It's quite early tho rather small, maybe a bit bigger than a golf ball.

December 17, 2008	#4
camochef Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Gettysburg, Pennsylvania Posts: 707	I've grown Stupice for the first time this year. Had two of them, they produced many hundreds of small tomatoes, larger than a ping pong ball but smaller than a tennis ball. Very prolific, but they tasted rather bland. I have no intention of growing it again this year as there are so many better tasting tomatoes out there to choose from. They might do better down your way, this was also a very bad year for tomatoes here in my area! Camo

December 17, 2008	#5
Lomatia Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 147	Have grown all of them but gave Stupice the flick probably for the same reasons as Camo. Always grow Black Plum as has good flavour, size and is prolific. MM is a good reliable tom here in Oz and a popular size and AO has good flavour but is a bit thin-skinned which doesn't worry me a lot.

December 17, 2008	#8
gssgarden Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: N.C. Posts: 1,821	Stupice has never been bland for me and always the first one picked. I think it was a wonderful taste. Production is off the charts. Great salad tomato or just shoving one in your mouth while bringing others to the kitchen. Have it almost every year. Greg

December 17, 2008	#9
Worth1 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Den of Drunken Fools Posts: 38,539	I have tried to grow Amana Orange 3 times and don't have a good opinion of it, it just doesn't do well for (((ME))) here in Texas. Kelloggs Breakfast is a much better choice. Just blow off all of the hype about Amana Orange and grow the latter, you wont be sorry. Black plum was grown for the first time last year and I am very happy with it. It put out fruit all summer long, that alone says a lot for me and it. A real must grow for the south. You should also try Home Stead and or Break O Day If you havent grown Cherokee Purple you simply must grow this tomato you wont be sorry. Just remember some of the folks that like or dislike tomatoes are very far from you and that alone will make a differance in productivety and taste due to climate. Worth

December 17, 2008	#11
sic transit gloria Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: KS 5b/6a Posts: 249	If you want an early salad-type, I recommend Aurora. I agree with the others, Stupice is fine, but the flavor isn't quite as good as Aurora. I've grown Amana Orange and I would also recommend KBX (the PL version of Kellogg's Breakfast) as being better flavored. Also, KB (or KBX) have always finished the year strong for me, putting out tomatoes when others have trailed off. I haven't grown the others, so I have no comment. Here's the bottom line: everyone has their favorite varieties, and certain varieties seem to do better in different soils/temperatures/humidities/etc. I say, grow all four on your list AND KBX, Matina, Aurora, etc. and see what does best for you. Keep in mind, though: from year to year, the same variety can taste and perform very differently. There are some consistently good ones, but I've had varieties taste great one year and average the next. Is it the variety? Probably not. It's most likely the conditions. For this reason, I try to grow a given variety twice before cast my ballot.

December 17, 2008	#14
montanamato Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Montana Posts: 1,038	I agree on Aurora....Much larger and better tasting than Stupice. Mano and Slava were both better tasting and more productive in my garden than Stupice too. Jeanne

December 17, 2008	#15
creister Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Abilene, TX zone 7 Posts: 1,478	I agree with worth, Break o Day is hard to beat. Sioux is another early red with high production, and great taste. I would grow it before stupice. It is only about a week or so later.