Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.
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June 25, 2015 | #16 |
Tomatovillian™
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I almost never spray either. I sometimes spray compost tea or Bt. Those are harmless. All last year though I never even needed BT!
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June 25, 2015 | #17 |
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June 25, 2015 | #18 | |
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Thats too funny, didn't see your post Bipetual! Last edited by pauldavid; June 25, 2015 at 11:28 PM. Reason: Bipetual's post |
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June 26, 2015 | #19 |
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I spray Daconil on a schedule from a pump sprayer. I'm usually in flip flops, shorts and a t-shirt. This is in the morning so when I'm finished it's off to the shower.
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June 26, 2015 | #20 |
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What kind of teas are you spraying that kill insects? I'm aware of compost additives with things like chitin, neem meal and a few others that have great benefits in terms of pest control, but I haven't heard of any teas that kill insects directly.. Fill us in!?
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June 26, 2015 | #21 |
Tomatovillian™
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Location: Pennsylvania
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A vermicompost tea will kill bugs. I've only done it once but it made my plants go from approx 100 bugs per leaf to zero in 1 day.
This guy had similar findings but he didn't find the spray killing aphids https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBI-Og5L8jc I suspect his spray wasn't killing the aphids on the finer growth plants because he probably didn't put a surfectant in his tea. Regardless, the bacteria in a vermicompost tea will kill bugs. I have personally seen this work. This faq also claims their tea does the same thing. I'm claiming that fresh vermicompost tea does this because I have personally done it. http://www.chinookcomposttea.com/faqs.htm |
June 26, 2015 | #22 |
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June 26, 2015 | #23 | |
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http://www.harrisseeds.com/storefron...er-shower.aspx What would you use as a spreader sticker? Would a few drops of dish soap work? |
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June 26, 2015 | #24 | |
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June 26, 2015 | #25 |
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Location: Pennsylvania
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Sorry for the brief response. I got a support call and I had to cut that short without adequate supporting documentation.
I don't know if powdered worm castings would work or not. They would probably have the humic acid which is beneficial (especially combined with kelp extract). I don't know about the bacterial side of vermicompost in dried castings. I know fresh ones from my worm farm worked in a way that was undeniable. I mean I had TONS of bugs eating all my stuff. I sprayed and the next day I had no bugs. Here's a better document about pest control with vermicompost tea. Search the document for the word "insect". It's a long article. I didn't read the whole thing but they give more specifics about insect control than I was aware of. I have read a few places that the bacteria in worm tea can infect a lot of pest insects and kill them. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3725894/ If you don't have a worm farm I would strongly encourage you to get one. vermicompost tea from fresh castings is AMAZING. It does things that help with pretty much every aspect of gardening. My first year gardening I was getting better results than neighbors who had been gardening for 10+ years. I didn't even know what I was doing but I was doing the worm teas I didn't truly realize how much of my success was tied to the worm teas until my worms died. Pretty much all of my success was tied to the worm teas (LOL). I'm a pretty mediocre gardener without worm tea. |
June 26, 2015 | #26 |
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Join Date: Mar 2015
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As children we used to follow the insect spraying (fogging) truck around the streets on our bicycles. I'm not too worried about spraying on a small scale. After all, I turned out ... hey look a squirrel!
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June 26, 2015 | #27 |
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Location: Connecticut
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Depending on what it is, for Daconil or organics I wear long pants and try to remember to wear gloves, and I use a heavier droplet spray, not a mist so there is minimal stuff to breath in and I scrub and/or shower afterwards. For stronger stuff I will make sure I wear long sleeves, a mask and again don't use a fine mist. But I haven't used a liquid stronger than Daconil in some time.
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June 27, 2015 | #28 | |
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Yeah, I remember the smell of malathion well from my childhood well. But I can't remember anything that happened yesterday! |
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June 27, 2015 | #29 | |
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Seriously, I will do some reading on the subject. I, too, am a mediocre gardener. Perhaps that is the missing piece of the puzzle! |
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June 27, 2015 | #30 | |
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