Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.
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June 18, 2017 | #1 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: NE Texas
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Single stem tomato question
This year I'm growing my tomatoes the single stem (or two stems) method.
The tomatoes are doing well, considering I thought they'd be burned up by now. My question is: by pruning this way, will this make the tomatoes produce bigger tomatoes than what the variety usually is that's not pruned? I'm growing Bloody Butcher and Eva Purple Ball. They're growing 2 to 3 inches across and are make small slicer tomatoes. First year growing these and wonder if my seed isn't pure..... Thanks |
June 18, 2017 | #2 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Plantation, Florida zone 10
Posts: 9,283
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Fewer stems allows for larger fruit growth, less fruit numbers.The plant can put all it's energy into the fruit it has not into others on more stems.The competition growers all prune off everything but the stem part with the fruit on it.
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June 18, 2017 | #3 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: NE Texas
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Thanks Marsha. This was a new way to grow tomatoes for this year. I like this way because I can cram more plants in a smaller space, but I think I'd rather have more tomatoes per plant.....
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June 19, 2017 | #4 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Alabama
Posts: 7,068
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As someone who has grown nothing but single stem plants for the last few years I can say that the variety also makes a big difference. There are some varieties that do exceptionally well and are very productive as single stem plants and there are others that do not function as well as single stem plants. To benefit from single stem pruning you need to lean and lower your plants in order to take advantage of the length that the vines will get as the season progresses. It is not unheard of for the vines to exceed 20 ft. and still be producing though usually the fruit are smaller near the ends of those long vines. Some varieties with more sparse foliage need to have the Missouri style of pruning to give them the necessary foliage to shade the fruit from sun scald.
Using only single stem pruning of my tomatoes I am getting far more and larger fruit overall now than when I allowed two or three stems in the same amount of garden space. Of course I am planting at least twice as many plants in that same space. Bill |
June 19, 2017 | #5 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Romania/Germany , z 4-6
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Eva purple ball will get pretty big pruned to one stem (about 300 grams). It's probably a good candidate.
Not sure about Bloody Butcher, but Stupice fruits stay quite small even if pruned. If your goal is more efficiency in small space, then you did the right thing. |
June 19, 2017 | #6 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: May 2012
Location: massachusetts
Posts: 1,710
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Bloody Butcher makes small roundish fruit. My recollection is 2" diameter.
They are earliest producer in my garden, one of the better tasting earlies I have tried and the flavor improves with the season. |
June 19, 2017 | #7 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Central Texas - Zone 8A
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I did a mixture of pruning with my plants, and while I really enjoyed the single stem pruning I got hit with a bad case of early blight that wiped out all my single stem plants. I had a few others that were multi-stem and I simply chopped off the afflicted stem. Once I got the EB under control they started growing again, albeit in a weakened state. The single stem did produce nice big toms though.
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June 19, 2017 | #8 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Alabama
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I just set out 21 plants in a bed this morning and came in when the heat hit over 90 and the humidity was stifling. All of these plants will be single stem and for this time of the year I concentrated on varieties that have proven they can set fruit in the hottest weather but I also added 5 or 6 varieties that I have no idea how they will do planted at this time.
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June 19, 2017 | #9 | |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Central Texas - Zone 8A
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What are a few of the varieties that have worked for you? I'm in TX zone 8A so I'll be having similar heat issues soon as well. I see you like ISPL, but what few others work well in the heat? |
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June 19, 2017 | #10 | |
Tomatovillian™
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Location: Alabama
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June 19, 2017 | #11 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: NE Texas
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So much to learn,so much to do!
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June 20, 2017 | #12 | |
Tomatovillian™
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Location: Alabama
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Another thing you should know about ISPL and most of the other black tomato varieties is that they are very vulnerable to gray mold and rainy weather can destroy them with diseases and split or bursting fruit. One year not too long ago I planted almost all black varieties from June through August. The only problem was that was the summer of rain, rain and more rain. I got almost no usable fruit from most of the black varieties. The one exception was Spudakee which did not split as bad nor as disastrously as most of the others but with all that rain even they had little taste. The few reds and pinks I had out then did far better and tasted much better. The black tomatoes reach their peak of flavor when it is hot and dry. That is the reason I keep a mixed bag of tomatoes with every planting. No matter how well you plan nature will frequently throw you a curve ball. Bill |
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June 20, 2017 | #13 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: May 2008
Location: DFW, Texas
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Bill and Marsha are two folks you want to follow carefully and try to never miss a post. In my book, they are two of very best of the best and both are extremely generous with their time and knowledge/experience. Both are hot, humid weather growers too, so they experience problems pretty typical of what you'll probably see in NE Tx, sure has been the case for me in the DFW area. Good luck!
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Greenville, South Carolina
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June 21, 2017 | #15 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: NE Texas
Posts: 425
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I didn't know of the lean and lower method either. I learn so much from this site and I'm thankful!
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