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July 21, 2012 | #1 |
Tomatovillian™
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does human pee deter deer?
deer are pests this year. for 12 years i have had virtually no problems but this year someone new has discovered my garden and my fear is it will teach others.
i suspect this is like hair or blood or irish spring soap et al, none of these deterrents really work but sometimes it works for someone. if anyone has experience using pee or knows someone that uses it effectively i'd like to hear about it. i would distribute pee around the fence line if this is effective. tom
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July 21, 2012 | #2 |
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LOL Tom. My neighbor insists that it is. I don't know. I mean I think it keeps squirrels away. She has her husband pee around her garden. She is a bit eccentric though so I don't know if I believe her. Maybe try it and see if you have any luck. It's free, anyway isnt it? Tee hee
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July 21, 2012 | #3 |
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as a deer hunter i say no human pee does not work. i have went on a tree 10 feet from my tree stand and had deer walk right by it not even spooked. the best bet is an electric fence.......................................
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July 21, 2012 | #4 |
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And then someone will pee on the electric fence!!!!
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July 21, 2012 | #5 |
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No way. Pee will, however, deter clients and girlfriends.
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July 23, 2012 | #6 | |
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When I bring this up with my wife, I'm sure she'll think I have spent a little too much time in the sun.
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July 21, 2012 | #7 |
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Makes no difference.
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July 21, 2012 | #8 |
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If you pee directly on them I think they might take offense Other than that they are going to ignore it. I've been on deer stand and seen them stop to sniff where I had relieved myself the day before.
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July 21, 2012 | #9 |
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The deer who ate my muskmelons looked like they should be pulling Santa's sleigh. They walked down the plastic mulch like it was a sidewalk. I had soap bars out there, cayenne pepper mixed with insecticidal soap on the plants, dogs nearby, and a pepper-based "animal deterrent" spray on the melons. They still ate every melon I had, cayenne pepper and all. These deer were not scared of anything, and none of the deterrents worked. Part of it is that these are huge deer, and the other part is our exceptional drought at the moment. They are desperate for moisture.
Curiously, they did not eat any of the watermelons growing next to the muskmelons. I think they have a harder time smelling the watermelon through its rind, which is thicker and less porous than a muskmelon. |
March 12, 2013 | #10 |
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Urban deer don't seem to behave the same as the deer on grandma's farm. Those deer, ran as soon as they saw us. The deer around here are far less skittish and much more inclined to give you a "What's Up?" stare while calmly dessimating your chard. In broad daylight. With the large pooch 30 feet away barking his fool head off. The coyotes are getting the same way.
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July 21, 2012 | #11 |
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Interesting article about repelling deer
http://community.seattletimes.nwsour...3&slug=1941685 talks about how one remedy works for a while, but then the deer smarten up and acclimate to it so you need to mix it up. They do say an electric fence is good, but not only are they expensive and work to install, I personally am just too stupid to have one around. We had electric fencing for our cows when I was younger and I would always end up touching it by accident at least once a day when I was out doing chores. It totally sucked. My father thought that was hysterical. Me, not so much. So I will never have an electric fence. Too many bad memories of bumping into it as a kid, LOL |
July 22, 2012 | #12 |
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Jennifer, as a child I spent every summer with my Grandparents on their farm in Nebraska, I cant tell you how many times I got poked by an electric fence.
One time they had it running as a cross over to the next area about 5 feet off the ground, so you could duck under it to get to the barn. I forgot to duck and kissed it hard with my forehead . I HATE when that happens!!!! Human urine will NOT work. I have read that dear hunters when using mock scrapes actually pee on them if they happen not to have deer urine, and it works well to attract the deer. I have hung out a smelly tee shirt after working in the sun all day, or an old pair of wet sneakers. As others have said, change it up, deer are smart! My neighbor told me yesterday that liquid fence works well. He works at a hardware/farm store and has tried them all. Tomatoes dissappearing may be the work of woodchucks or raccoons, get a live trap. The last few days we have caught 2 woodchucks and one coon, and the vanishing maters has stopped. The rain washed out the smelly shirts and the deer ate an entire short row of pole beans. Going for the liquid fence now. Add: Just read the ads for liquid fence, and they avoid mentiong any edible plants, so my guess would be don't use it directly in the garden. ken OK, adding again, just read the MSDS on liquid fence, its main components are rotted egg and garlic, plus several items that are all generally used as food additives for presevation, thickening and soubility. Still I would not spray directly on edibles. Last edited by kenny_j; July 22, 2012 at 10:50 AM. Reason: add |
July 22, 2012 | #13 |
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ok it's obvious this free resource will continue to visit the septic system!
i'd be curious on an update on the liquid fence. keith, your fishing line fence is similar to something i am considering. i have a 28" tall fence around the garden and there are posts naturally. put a 5' piece of schedule 40 pvc pipe over each post. drill holes into each piece of pipe that will be around the 4' and 7' level off the ground and run rope thru the holes. this would surround the garden and present a barrier where they couldn't step into the garden (the 4' level) and at 7' may discourage them from jumping it tho i have read 8' is probably the highest a fence needs to be as they don't or won't jump higher. it's an expense and will look like crap but it's far less of a cost than an electric fence. if the 4' and 7' isn't working i can drill another hole at 5.5'. anyone ever try this? tom
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July 22, 2012 | #14 |
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you could make that fence a double one. have a second one a few feet outside the first one. make them go through a gauntlet if they are determined.
regarding an electric fence, someone cracked me up when he told me what you want to do is put some aluminum foil strips along the top row, and then put some peanut butter on there. the deer comes along to take a lick, and ZAPPO. good bye deer. keith |
July 21, 2012 | #15 |
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I had deer under my apple trees every year until I got my second dog. That one is the female chocolate lab. She stirs and barks at anything entering our yard even when she is inside our house. Both dog have electric collars on that limit them from going more than 180 feet. Our garden is inside that limit. No more rabbits, groundhogs, deer, or turkeys. Still having some issues with crows and squirrels. I don't deer want anything to do with dog pee. My dogs regularly "mark" their territory.
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