Yugoslavian question

Gimme3 · February 2, 2007

It appears that the original source for a Yasha Yugoslavian tomato was a gentleman named Yasha Crnkovich.
This prompts the question...Is a Yasha Yugoslavian seed/cultivar the same thing as a Crnkovich Yugoslavian, or are they both ....different from each other ? And if they are one and the same, what should be the most proper name of identification ?

Inquiring minds would like to know...)))

Andrey_BY · February 2, 2007

Actually they are Carolyn's "offsprings" ("grandchildren")

creister · February 2, 2007

Hey Gimmie,

Glad to see you post, was begining to wonder about you.

I believe they are two different varieties that Carolyn recieved from someone she knows from Yugoslavia. I have ordered Crnkovich Yugo to grow this year, the description in Carolyn's book makes it sound real good. I am also growing it because my great grandmother immigrated to the USA from Yugoslavia.

velikipop · February 2, 2007

According to the descriptions, I believe that they are different. Crnkovic is pink and Yasha is red. I grew Crnkovic last year and will grow Yasha this year alongside Yugoslavian (seed from Sandhill) and another Yugoslavian, seed saved from tomato bought at the market.

Crnkovic was a good plant. Lots of nice tomatoes, but I found the flavour a bit weak.

I also have an interest in plants from the region because of my Serbian roots. I will be traveling back to the area in the spring and hope to collect as many tomato and pepper varities as possible..both commercial and other.

I still have a few varieties left from 2005 if anyone wants to try a few seeds. They are Backa, Volovsko Srce, (an Oxheart that could be Serbian, Russian or whatever), Adonis ,Novosadski Jabucar and Lova VF. All are commercial seed.

Send me an E-mail at achillies3@shaw.ca.

Alex

**carolyn137** · February 2, 2007

Crnkovic Yugoslavian and Yasha Yugoslavian are two different varieties I got from Yasha Crnkovic who was head of the Computer Science Dept at the last place where I taught before retirement.

Crnkovic Yugoslavian, the one in my book, is a pink beefsteak. And on the page where that one is pictured I also spoke to the one called Yasha Yugoslavian and noted that it was heart shaped, and it too is pink.

I have quite a few from that general region and Yugo comes to mind, but all of those I never kept up with as to growing out for new stock, so those seeds are very old and would need waking up.

Those of you who knew about the two seed offers I made at GW know that I offered over 300 varieties and those were all older seeds. Just a few of those were from Eastern Europe.

If any of you are interested in what I might have from that area I can take a look at my index, which is in pencil in a notebook from when I sent lots of varieties to Israel for a project last year, as did Craig and Glenn Drowns after I recruited them b'c they needed 1000 different varieties.

The second part isn't so easy and that's finding the vials and envelopes with the seeds of those older varieties.

velikipop · February 2, 2007

Carolyn,

I did get some Yasha seeds from you in your offer. For some reson I thought it was red!!. I would love to try other varieties that you might have from the area. Of course, this would be at your convenience when you get the time. I probably wouldn't be growing them this year as I am already palnning to grow about 70 different varities . I am also very interested in any old or rare American heirlooms.

Thanks,

Alex

Gimme3 · February 2, 2007

Thanks for the replies/answer....yall. I guess that means i need to try em Both...))) Ty, again.

**carolyn137** · February 2, 2007

Alex, what say you start reminding me in mid to late summer after I've recuperated enough from the new right hip that goes in in May and I'll try to ID some of those varieties. And yes, I also have quite a few older /rare American commercial heirlooms, if that's what you're referring to. Many of them are also listed in the SSE Yearbooks.

So, it's up to you to remind me of what I'm supposed to be doing re digging out those kinds of seeds.

velikipop · February 2, 2007

Carolyn,

That suits me fine. Hope for a speedy recovery from your surgery.

Alex

February 2, 2007	#1
Gimme3 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Northeast Georgia, USA Posts: 348	Yugoslavian question It appears that the original source for a Yasha Yugoslavian tomato was a gentleman named Yasha Crnkovich. This prompts the question...Is a Yasha Yugoslavian seed/cultivar the same thing as a Crnkovich Yugoslavian, or are they both ....different from each other ? And if they are one and the same, what should be the most proper name of identification ? Inquiring minds would like to know...))) __________________ ....Can you tell a green Field.....from a cold steel rail ? Roger Waters, David Gilmour

February 2, 2007	#2
Andrey_BY Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Minsk, Belarus, Eastern Europe (Zone 4a) Posts: 2,278	Actually they are Carolyn's "offsprings" ("grandchildren") __________________ 1 kg=2.2 lb , 1 m=39,37 in , 1 oz=28.35 g , 1 ft=30.48 cm , 1 lb= 0,4536 kg , 1 in=2.54 cm , 1 l = 0.26 gallon , 0 C=32 F Andrey a.k.a. TOMATODOR

February 2, 2007	#4
velikipop Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Langley, BC Posts: 768	According to the descriptions, I believe that they are different. Crnkovic is pink and Yasha is red. I grew Crnkovic last year and will grow Yasha this year alongside Yugoslavian (seed from Sandhill) and another Yugoslavian, seed saved from tomato bought at the market. Crnkovic was a good plant. Lots of nice tomatoes, but I found the flavour a bit weak. I also have an interest in plants from the region because of my Serbian roots. I will be traveling back to the area in the spring and hope to collect as many tomato and pepper varities as possible..both commercial and other. I still have a few varieties left from 2005 if anyone wants to try a few seeds. They are Backa, Volovsko Srce, (an Oxheart that could be Serbian, Russian or whatever), Adonis ,Novosadski Jabucar and Lova VF. All are commercial seed. Send me an E-mail at achillies3@shaw.ca. Alex __________________ I'll plant and I'll harvest what the earth brings forth The hammer's on the table, the pitchfork's on the shelf Bob Dylan

February 2, 2007	#5
carolyn137 Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Upstate NY, zone 4b/5a Posts: 21,169	Crnkovic Yugoslavian and Yasha Yugoslavian are two different varieties I got from Yasha Crnkovic who was head of the Computer Science Dept at the last place where I taught before retirement. Crnkovic Yugoslavian, the one in my book, is a pink beefsteak. And on the page where that one is pictured I also spoke to the one called Yasha Yugoslavian and noted that it was heart shaped, and it too is pink. I have quite a few from that general region and Yugo comes to mind, but all of those I never kept up with as to growing out for new stock, so those seeds are very old and would need waking up. Those of you who knew about the two seed offers I made at GW know that I offered over 300 varieties and those were all older seeds. Just a few of those were from Eastern Europe. If any of you are interested in what I might have from that area I can take a look at my index, which is in pencil in a notebook from when I sent lots of varieties to Israel for a project last year, as did Craig and Glenn Drowns after I recruited them b'c they needed 1000 different varieties. The second part isn't so easy and that's finding the vials and envelopes with the seeds of those older varieties. __________________ Carolyn

February 2, 2007	#6
velikipop Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Langley, BC Posts: 768	Carolyn, I did get some Yasha seeds from you in your offer. For some reson I thought it was red!!. I would love to try other varieties that you might have from the area. Of course, this would be at your convenience when you get the time. I probably wouldn't be growing them this year as I am already palnning to grow about 70 different varities . I am also very interested in any old or rare American heirlooms. Thanks, Alex __________________ I'll plant and I'll harvest what the earth brings forth The hammer's on the table, the pitchfork's on the shelf Bob Dylan

February 2, 2007	#3
creister Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Abilene, TX zone 7 Posts: 1,478	Hey Gimmie, Glad to see you post, was begining to wonder about you. I believe they are two different varieties that Carolyn recieved from someone she knows from Yugoslavia. I have ordered Crnkovich Yugo to grow this year, the description in Carolyn's book makes it sound real good. I am also growing it because my great grandmother immigrated to the USA from Yugoslavia.