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Old March 29, 2012   #16
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Growing twenty this season with the hope of trimming down to ten next year. That number would be ideal for the amount of BYG space I currently have available. Going to garden this weekend with the following varieties:

Amazon Chocolate
Chocolate Stripes
Big Cheef
Bear Creek
Dana's Dusky Rose
Stump Of The World
Sandul Moldovan
Brandywine(Cowlicks')
Liz Birt
Purple Dog Creek
Hege German Pink
Mrs Benson
Barlow Jap
Raspberry Miracle
Tarasenko 6
Dixiewine
Cherry(unknown pink variety that was mixed in with Amazon seeds)
Sungold
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Fantastic lists Everyone!

Kath,
That's a huge list! What is Carbon Copy? I like that name Seek-No-Further Love Apple. It has A LOT to live up to.

Marina,
I don't think anyone will think you're loony around here!

Eddy and BigBrownDogHouse,
More huge lists! You're both growing quite a few on my future to grow lists. I sure hope we all have a warm sunny summer.

PA Julia,
That's a great little mix
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Here is what I have under the lights for tomatoes. It's 194 varieties. I had 6 complete no shows out of 200 varieties started, but I'm hoping to recieve 6 additional new ones to fill in for them soon...

I have room for one of each at home, plus community garden space and a friend with a farmland available to plant all the extras if I don't kill the first round or two trying to push the season.

[Indeterminate Varieties first, grouped by fruit color]

[Black/Purple]
Amazon Chocolate
Black Krim
Brad's Black Heart
Carbon
Cherokee Purple
Gary'O Sena
Indian Stripe
JD's Special C Tex
Shokoladnyi
Tim's Black Ruffles
Vorlon
Wessel's Purple Pride
Russian Cossack
Purple Russian
Black Pear

[Pink]
Anna Russian
Barlow Jap
Brandywine from Croatia
County Agent
Gregori's Altai
Lithuanian Crested Pink
Mazarini
Mrs Benson
Pale Perfect Purple
Pervaya Lyubov
Sheboygan
Tsar-Kolokol
Zapotec Pleated
Pink Honey
Purple Dog Creek
Earl's Faux
Lillian Macijewski's Poland Pink
Tlacolula

[Red]
Break O'Day
Costoluto Genovese
Federle
Gildo Pietroboni
Greenbush Italian
Lehrertomate (Teacher's Tomato)
Opalka
Palmira's Northern Italian Beefsteak
Pantano Romanesco
Pera d'Abruzzo
Polish Linguisa
Prue
Russo's Sicilian Togetta
Tarasenko 6
Wisconsin 55
Wes
Nile River Egyptian
Mushroom Basket
Venetian Marketplace
Chico Grande
Chinese
Sierra Leone
Kenosha Paste
German Red Strawberry
Marmande Garnier Rouge
Granny's Heart
Fish Lake Oxheart
Jersey Giant
Nepal
Cow's Tit
Marmande Precocissimo
Pomodoro Banana Marino
Cosmonaut Volkov

[Yellow/Orange]
Aunt Gerties Gold
Azoychka
Jubilee
Limmony
Manyel
Orange Minsk
Pork Chop
Rosalie's Early Orange
Wisconsin 55 Gold
Dr. Wyche's Yellow
Earl Of Edgecombe
Nicoviotis Orange
Beijing Yellow
Orange Strawberry

[White]
Duggin White
Fantome Du Laos
Shah
White Tomesol
White Oxheart
White Queen
White Wax
Great White
White Beauty/Beauty Blanc
Kay's White
Viva Lindsey’s White Kentucky
Yazon
Zea Sonnabend White
Téton de Venus Blanc

[Green]
Absinthe
Cherokee Green
Evergreen
Grub's Mystery Green
Malakhitovaya Shkatulka
Moldovan Green
Spear's Tennessee Green
Aunt Ruby's German Green
Green Pineapple
Giant Green Zebra
Marmande Verte
Grandma Oliver's Green
Green Giant

[Bicolor/other]
Beauty King
Berkeley Tie-Dye
Berkeley Tie-Dye Heart
Berkeley Tie-Dye Pink
Large Barred Boar
Solar Flare
Vintage Wine
Copia
Beauty Queen
Captain Lucky
Golden Cherokee

[Colorful Salad Tomatoes]
Black and Red Boar
Black and Brown Boar
Pink Boar
Sweet Carneros Pink
AAA Sweet Solano
Csikos Botermo
Red Furry Boar
Pink Furry Boar
Yellow Furry Boar
Blonde Boar
Garden Peach
Wapsipinicon Peach
Speckled Peach
Tigerella
Michael Pollan
Maglia Rosa
Blush
Trenton's Tiger

[Blue]
Dancing with Smurfs
Bosque Blue
J&L Select Blue
Indigo Rose
Blue Match
Blue Streak
Helsing ★★★★★★★★ Blues
Blue Fog
Muddy Waters
Searching for the Blue Zebra
Blue Bayou

[Determinate/semi-determinate]
Ace 55
Bush Beefsteak
Calypso
Early Glee
Early Rouge
Fireball
Homestead
Hungarian Mobile
Kalinka
Magyar Piros Boker
Morden Yellow
Mountain Gold
Peron Sprayless
Siletz
Sophie's Choice
Super Marmande
Rozalinda
Rumi Banjan

[Dwarf Project Releases]
Summertime Gold
Mr. Snow
Rosella Purple
Summertime Green
Tasmanian Chocolate

[Currant Tomatoes]
Hawaiian Red Currant
Sara's Galapagos

Caribbean Single Island Sauces Trial Tomato Varieties

[Obtained from the USDA collection]
Jamaica - PI 647123 - Collected in Jamaica 01-Sep-1964 by R. Sweet from Cornell. Shown at Vegetable Variety Field Day in Ithaca, NY 9/14/1964. Fruit 3.3 cm. x 4.0 cm. - 4.2 cm., red to pinkish in color. Most fruit not green top, some are. Peel is translucent - see a vertical vernation through skin. Some cracks, mostly radial. Small round deep set stem scar. When picked, calyx remains on plant.
Petrillo - PI 201775 - Donated 01-Jan-1952, from Puerto Rico. A variety with a tart acid flavor. From A.T. Erwin. Large indeterminate plant, variable fruit set of oblate fruits. Reported severe fasciation and radial and concentric cracking, heavy fruit set.
Plamar Caribe - PI 644772 - Donated 1961 by Puerto Rico Agricultural Experiment Station - University of Puerto Rico, Mayaguez. 6-8 cm. oblate red fruit.
126 LM - PI 263721 - Donated 29-Feb-1960 by Puerto Rico Agricultural Experiment Station - University of Puerto Rico, Rio Piedras. Smaller determinate plant, medium sized globe fruits with slight fasciation and cracking. Medium maturity, medium to heavy fruit set.
80 - PI 263716 - Donated 29-Feb-1960 by Puerto Rico Agricultural Experiment Station - University of Puerto Rico, Rio Piedras. Medium sized indeterminate plant, variable fruit shapes with slight fasciation and cracking. Medium maturity and fruit set.
G 10221S - PI 321052 - Selection from PI 263720, donated 29-Feb-1960 by Puerto Rico Agricultural Experiment Station - University of Puerto Rico, Rio Piedras. Plant indeterminate. Fruit excellent external color, little cracking, uniform ripening, medium maturity, high set and yield.
242 - PI 263724 - Donated 29-Feb-1960 by Puerto Rico Agricultural Experiment Station - University of Puerto Rico, Rio Piedras. A medium sized determinate tomato, medium to late maturity with heavy fruit set. No fasciation and only slight susceptibility to cracking. Plum/Pear shaped fruit.
H 2 - PI 263710 - Donated 29-Feb-1960 by Puerto Rico Agricultural Experiment Station - University of Puerto Rico, Rio Piedras. Indeterminate plant, medium sized oblate fruit, medium fasciation and cracking observed. Medium to heavy fruit set in a mid to late season tomato.
105 A - PI 263718 - Donated 29-Feb-1960 by Puerto Rico Agricultural Experiment Station - University of Puerto Rico, Rio Piedras. A medium sized determinate tomato, medium to late maturity 2-3 inch globe fruit.
Rinon - PI 98097 - Collected 08-Mar-1932 in Cuba by T. Fennell and J. Jack. A rather small or medium-sized tomato, much flattened, oblately rounded or curved towards the stem and wrinkled. Prof. Jack believes this is simply a degenerate form of the improved cultivated tomato which has become established as a wild plant in Cuba. It is said, however, to withstand very trying conditions and to grow luxuriantly at times when all other tomatoes fail.
290 - PI 208761 - Cuba Collected 28-Apr-1953 near Havana, Cuba by D.S. Correll and J.C. Miller. Medium sized plum/pear.
Marti 51 - PI 208835 - Collected 28-Apr-1953 San Antonio de Les Banos, Cuba by D.S. Correll and J.C. Miller. Smaller Oblate fruit.

[Obtained from Leibniz Institute of Plant Genetics and Crop Plant Research]
Tomate Botellita - LYC 3383 - Collected in Cuba in 1988, no other data available.
Tomate Cocina - LYC 3532 - Collected in Cuba in 1990, no other data available.
Tomate Criollo - LYC 3467 - Collected in Cuba in 1990, no other data available.
Tomate Cimarron Legendario - LYC 3468 - Collected in Cuba in 1990, no other data available.
Tomate Cimarron Rojo - LYC 3313 - Collected in Cuba in 1987, no other data available.
Unnamed tomato - LYC 2755 - Collected in Trinidad, Cuba in 1968, no other data available.

[Obtained from the AVRDC in Taiwan]
Magnitlo tente - L04022 - Collected in Trinidad and Tobago, added to the AVRDC collection 23-Jan-1976. Seed generated in 1982, no other data available.

[Obtained from the Centre for Genetic Resources - The Netherlands Plant Research International]
Irat L3 - CGN15897 - Martinique a cross between Floralou/199 UPR 39-15 bred by Institut de Recherches Agronomiques et Tropicales, Martinique. Resistance to C.michiganense, P. solanacearum, Verticillium dahliae

[Purchased/Traded for Caribbean Varieties - Descriptions from each seed source]
Olirose de St. Dominque - 75 days, French name for "Tomato Rose de Santo Domingo" (or pink tomato from) An old variety from the island. Also grown in Haiti. Seed was coll. by the ENSC in Arles, France coming from the collection of Norbert Parriera of France. Healthy plants bear copious clusters of rose/pink, oval/pear-shaped 6-8oz. fruits that drop when they feel they are ripe! The fruits themselves are sweet & juicy, mixed with some old-fashioned flavor. They keep well, due to their thicker wall and skin.
Plate de Haiti - 75 Days, indet., regular leaf pink red apple shaped tomato that is very uniform and about 2 1/2-2" in size. In the seed providers experience this tomato is very disease resistant and prolific.

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Old March 29, 2012   #19
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Thanks Remy!! I tried for some diversity this year.


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Fantastic lists Everyone!

Kath,
That's a huge list! What is Carbon Copy? I like that name Seek-No-Further Love Apple. It has A LOT to live up to.

Marina,
I don't think anyone will think you're loony around here!

Eddy and BigBrownDogHouse,
More huge lists! You're both growing quite a few on my future to grow lists. I sure hope we all have a warm sunny summer.

PA Julia,
That's a great little mix
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What a nice list Kath and a lot of variaties that I never heard about. So it's time to post my list also I think.
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Thanks, Eddy- you've got an exciting looking list yourself and varieties that I've not hear of either. Glad you posted your longer-than-mine list.
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Kath, to grow early in the greenhouse, but not necessarily an early variety ,have you considered Pervaya Lyubov ( First Love) which for the past several years or so has been one of THE most popular varieties from my seed offers as well as from SSE requests?

About 75 days, indet, PL , round pink, and almost everyone speaks of the sweet/tangy taste. Seeds originally from Andrey. But perhaps you've already grow it?

Yes, I know I'm an enabler, so deal with it.
Oh, I don't mind suggestions but rather appreciate them, Carolyn, and will definitely look into that one for 2013 because I haven't tried it. Not sure about the "tangy" part, though- the "sweet" part is right up my alley. Thanks!

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Kath,
That's a huge list! What is Carbon Copy? I like that name Seek-No-Further Love Apple. It has A LOT to live up to.
Remy
It's twice as big as I had hoped, Remy, but maybe next year I'll be satisfied to stop at a more reasonable number.

For more on Carbon Copy, see: http://www.tomatoville.com/showthrea...ht=Carbon+Copy

I love the name, too, and the description sounds like it has great possibilities. Wouldn't it be great if it really is that good and the search will be over?

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Kath,
I hope I can enjoy from a lot of delicious tomatoes. You have a number of very promising names of your tomatoes. I hope they taste as good as I hope (and you too I think)
All the others have also a lot of very interesting looking varieties. As everyone I'm very curious how they will look like and taste. And hopefully at the end of the year we can swap a lot of seeds.

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So many interesting varieties in everyones lists that I'd never heard of. Had to cut and paste myself a list to research what they all are...

Carbon Copy sounds wonderful. Carbon is one of my repeats every year.
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Mine has changed slightly from January. I'm trying some supposedly early new hybrids I haven't grown before to see how they are. I've tried most of the heirloom earlies. Still hoping to hold it to 18 as below and seeded the following varieties on 3/24:

Black Cherry
2 Bloody Butchers
Biltmore *
Big Beef *
Brandywine
Moskvich
Tasti-Lee *
2 Red Siberians
Jetsetter *
2 Ramapos
Cherokee Purple
2 Granny's Hearts
Moreton Hybrid
Sarnowski's Polish Plum

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Descriptions from Tatiana's Tomatobase]
Olirose de St. Dominque - 75 days, French name for "Tomato Rose de Santo Domingo" (or pink tomato from) An old variety from the island. Also grown in Haiti. Seed was coll. by the ENSC in Arles, France coming from a collection of the late Norbert Parriera of France. Healthy plants bear copious clusters of rose/pink, oval/pear-shaped 6-8oz. fruits that drop when they feel they are ripe! The fruits themselves are sweet & juicy, mixed with some old-fashioned flavor. They keep well, due to their thicker wall and skin.
Plate de Haiti - 75 Days, indet., regular leaf pink red apple shaped tomato that is very uniform and about 2 1/2-2" in size. In my experience this tomato is very disease resistant and prolific.

In 1992 I and two others did a huge trade with Norbert and that's how the above two varieties got to the US.

And if you do a search here at Tville you'll see a thread about them where I posted the description given to both of them in older YEarbooks after I listed them.

And the descriptions differed based on who was offering them. For instance, Will Weaver asked me for Plate de Haiti and his description was different from others who reported by others, not in a major way but with shapes and taste.

If I have time, which I don't have now, I'll try to find that thread or if you have time you can do the same.

Norbert started posting here just a few months ago, but mainly in French and I think he may have stopped b'c it was so frustrating for him, even though folks here who knew French translated his posts.

And so I ask in the above description of Olirose why Norbert was described as being the LATE Norbert. As I said, he was here just a few months ago and described what had happened to him after he traded the seeds with us, where he moved to in France, and why, and was psoting about what he was going to grow in his new gardens.

So I'll ask Tania about that since you said you got the description from Tania. And she knows he was here at Tville as well.

From that HUGE trade with him in 1992 we managed to get some outstanding v arieties that had not been known here in the US before, and as I said to him when he was here, how very much many of the ultimate recipients were with them/\\All of us in the trade listed the varieties in the SSE YEarbooks in 1993, 4, and I think 1995.
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It appears my attribution of the descriptions is wrong, my apologies. The description of Olirose de St. Dominque is from Mandy's Greenhouses and the Plate de Haiti description is from Heritage Harvest Seed. Other than those obtained from seed banks, most of the other descriptions in my notes of each varieties are from Tania's site and I did not differentiate these two.

I will fix that above so as not to propagate any incorrect information.
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And the descriptions differed based on who was offering them. For instance, Will Weaver asked me for Plate de Haiti and his description was different from others who reported by others, not in a major way but with shapes and taste.
I hope to post pictures of these this season to see if they appear to be incorrect based on your reccolection of the originals. I know for many varieties sizes, shapes and taste are variable, but perhaps we can find out if something was crossed or mislabeled somewhere along the way.
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Kath,

Wow!! That's an incredible list!! I would just love to see them in your garden.
I bet the rows and rows of tomato plants would be amazing.


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It's another long list for me this year, but this is the last time, I'm sure. The following are already started- some new ones for container growing and some old favorites just in case it's extra warm early:

Amazon Chocolate
Caspian Pink
Copper River
"Chocolate Beefsteak"
Danko
Favorite Holiday
Fish Lake Oxheart
Fruhe Liebe
Giannini
Granny's Heart
Hawaiian Pineapple
Hays'
Maskotka
Oleyar's German
Sandul Moldovan
Sibirskiy Skorospelyi
Sungold F1
Terhune
Zolotoe Serdste

The following varieties also made the cut this year and will be sown on 3/31:

Alice's Egypt
Amana Pink
Amish Rose
Antique Roman
Barlow Jap
Belize Pink Heart
Big Ben #1
Big Cheef
Black Mountain Pink
Blush
Bobbie
Brandywine, Glick's
Brandywine, Heart-Shaped
"Brandywine, Liam's"
Brave General
Brown Sugar
Burning Spear
Captain Lucky
"Carbon Copy"
Carie Claxon Yellow
Chyornyi Tarasenko
Daniels
"Dark Striped Cherry" F2
Destor's Amish Beefsteak
Dr. Lyle
Dutka's Pink
Eastham Pink Heirloom
Everett's Rusty Oxheart
"Flortis Cherry"
Gaccetta Paste
German Giant
German Johnson
German Johnson Potato Leaf
Grandma Viney's Yellow and Pink
Grandpap's Rose Wax
Grant County Pink
HeShPoLe
Honeydrop Cherry
Hungarian Heart
Hungarian Oval
Indiana Red
Indian Stripe x Daniels
Ispolin Malinovyi
Italian Striped
Jan's
JD's Special C-Tex
"Josephina" (Josefina F1?)
Kentucky Beefsteak
Kentucky Cabin
Koroleva
Kosovo
Kukla's Portuguese Heart
Lee's Sweet
Madame Jardel's Black
Madison County Pink
Marizol Purple
Matt's Folly
Matt's Wild Cherry
Mawlenowe
McClintock's Big Pink
Monomakh's Hat
Nature's Riddle
Olena Ukrainian
Orange Banana
Orange Heirloom
Orange Strawberry
Pink Elephant
Pink Honey
Pink Oxheart
PPP x PP C
Pruden's Purple
Prue
Queen of Hearts
Raspberry Miracle
Reif Italian Heart
Rose Quartz x Black Cherry
Rosi Mari
Seek-No-Further Love Apple
Serdste Buivola
Serendipity
Sherry's Sweet Heart
Solar Flare
Sugar Plum F1
Sweet Beverley
Tarensenko 6
Tennessee Heirloom
Toedebusch Pink
Top Sirloin
Trenton's Tiger
Tsar of Bells
'Vince P1" F5
Walter's Candy Stripe
Wanda's Potato Top
Watermelon Beefsteak
Watermelon Beefsteak Potato Leaf
Wedekind Heirloom Pink
Work Release Paste
Worley Red
Zeke Dishman
"Zima" F2
Zolotaya Rapsodiya

I'm really, really hoping for a not too hot, not too wet growing season.
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So many interesting varieties in everyones lists that I'd never heard of. Had to cut and paste myself a list to research what they all are...
You've certainly got a LOT that I've never heard of either, Mark!

Imagine worrying about being judged for having a long list of fantastic tomato varieties on a site frequented by tomato lovers! Thanks for having the courage to post!
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