Mycorrhizal Fungi

amideutch · January 21, 2007

There is a thread on "Innoculants" started by garnetmoth that also should be in this forum as it particulary applies to those of us that use sterilized soil/mix mixes in our growing containers. These mixes are devoid of benificial organisms which perform a lot of functions including nutrient uptake and disease prevention during the growing cycle of the plant. Interesting reading. Ami
http://www.fungi.com/mycogrow/index.html
Heres the URL for Garnetmoths thread on innoculents.
http://www.tomatoville.com/showthread.php?t=3735
Heres another for container potting soil.
http://www.tandjenterprises.com/tand..._gardening.htm

**mdvpc** · January 21, 2007

Ami-Thanks for the link. I wonder what the shelf life of myco is-I use Chappy's Power Organics. The container says it expires 2 years from ship date. I wonder if that is appropriate for all of these products. The application instructions say one teaspoon sprinkled on the roots.

amideutch · January 21, 2007

mdvpc, Can't tell you about the shelf life with different types. I guess a lot has to do with how you store it. Heres the link to your product.
http://www.rootbooster.com/

**mdvpc** · January 21, 2007

My product says to store in cool, dry place.

garnetmoth · January 24, 2007

That BioVam seems to be the most complete innoculant Ive read about so far.

its got endo and ectomycorrhyzae, so it would help trees or plants, and its got many beneficial bacteria that assist on their own (or possibly more in association with the mycorrhyzae) Trichoderma spp. are highly competitive with several fungal diseases......

amideutch · January 24, 2007

GMoth, I've come to the same conclusion concerning Biovam. Also like their Microbe Tea. Since I have already purchased 'Actinovate' I sent them an e-mail concerning the compatibility of their products with 'Actinovate and this is their reply.
Theodore,

Strecptomyces lydicus would be at home with both BioVam and our Microbe tea product. In fact, it looks like it would make a good addition to both of those products. Thank's for bringing it to my attention.

Best Regards,
Thomas Giannou
http://www.tandjenterprises.com

**Patrina_Pepperina** · January 26, 2007

Would any of these beneficial organisms knock out the bacteria that causes stem canker? I don't know the name of the bacteria, but it's very persistent, and spread thru a subsequent batch of potting mix by re-using the bags which had been stored empty and dry between seasons

I'm thinking I might need to sterilise the soil in the garden beds where the infected soil ended up, but I hate to do it since it will knock out the good as well as the bad

I will sterilise all the bags this time before buying new potting mix, lesson learned the hard way

Patrina

**mdvpc** · January 26, 2007

Patrina-I use a bleach and water solution to sterilize my grow bags and other containers.

amideutch · January 27, 2007

PP, Stem Canker (Botrytis cinerea) check out this product which I mentioned previously,
http://www.spray-n-growgardening.com...mber=ACT&top=7
and this product which has several uses and can be found at the above site also,
http://www.physan.com/PAGES/C_G_G.html
Physan is a general purpose bactericide and fungicide that is FDA approved. Hope this helps.
If all else fails sterilize your soil and put the benificial organisims back into the soil with the products we have been discussing. Ami

**mdvpc** · January 27, 2007

Ami-have you used the spray and grow product? What were your results?

amideutch · January 27, 2007

mdvpc, If you are referring to the 'Actinovate' I have not used it yet. I came across it at the website I listed and did further research on it and I have purchased it for use this season.
I have used 'Physan' and have had good results with it. It originally started out as 'Consan' and was developed by excello corp. Ami

**mdvpc** · January 27, 2007

Ami-if you are talking about consan triple action 20, I didnt realize you could use it on tomatoes.

**Patrina_Pepperina** · January 27, 2007

Thanks for the advice and links folks. I'm thinking I'll use a drench and need to check what's available here.

PP

amideutch · January 28, 2007

Consan Triple action 20 is different than Physan 20. I have not used the Physan as a foliar spray but for general disinfecting of pots and other garden related cleaning tasks. I have read where Physan 20 was sprayed in growing beds prior to planting out tomato plants with no signs of disease appearing later on. Physan dissipates 24 hours after use. Check out this website. Just enter the product name and do a search and it will give you all the information concerning it and toxicity information for the active ingredients. Ami
www.pesticideinfo.org

honu · February 22, 2007

Here is some info on arbuscular mycorrhizal fungus from our university:
http://www.ctahr.hawaii.edu/oc/freepubs/pdf/SCM-5.pdf

January 21, 2007	#1
amideutch Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Germany 49°26"N 07°36"E Posts: 5,041	Mycorrhizal Fungi There is a thread on "Innoculants" started by garnetmoth that also should be in this forum as it particulary applies to those of us that use sterilized soil/mix mixes in our growing containers. These mixes are devoid of benificial organisms which perform a lot of functions including nutrient uptake and disease prevention during the growing cycle of the plant. Interesting reading. Ami http://www.fungi.com/mycogrow/index.html Heres the URL for Garnetmoths thread on innoculents. http://www.tomatoville.com/showthread.php?t=3735 Heres another for container potting soil. http://www.tandjenterprises.com/tand..._gardening.htm Last edited by amideutch; March 5, 2007 at 06:20 AM.

January 21, 2007	#2
mdvpc Tomatoville® Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 4,386	Ami-Thanks for the link. I wonder what the shelf life of myco is-I use Chappy's Power Organics. The container says it expires 2 years from ship date. I wonder if that is appropriate for all of these products. The application instructions say one teaspoon sprinkled on the roots. __________________ Michael

January 21, 2007	#4
mdvpc Tomatoville® Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 4,386	My product says to store in cool, dry place. __________________ Michael

January 26, 2007	#7
Patrina_Pepperina Cross Hemisphere Dwarf Project™ Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New South Wales, Australia Posts: 3,094	Would any of these beneficial organisms knock out the bacteria that causes stem canker? I don't know the name of the bacteria, but it's very persistent, and spread thru a subsequent batch of potting mix by re-using the bags which had been stored empty and dry between seasons I'm thinking I might need to sterilise the soil in the garden beds where the infected soil ended up, but I hate to do it since it will knock out the good as well as the bad I will sterilise all the bags this time before buying new potting mix, lesson learned the hard way Patrina __________________ Truth is colourful, not just black and white. PP: 2005

January 26, 2007	#8
mdvpc Tomatoville® Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 4,386	Patrina-I use a bleach and water solution to sterilize my grow bags and other containers. __________________ Michael

January 24, 2007	#5
garnetmoth Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: cincinnati, oh Posts: 492	That BioVam seems to be the most complete innoculant Ive read about so far. its got endo and ectomycorrhyzae, so it would help trees or plants, and its got many beneficial bacteria that assist on their own (or possibly more in association with the mycorrhyzae) Trichoderma spp. are highly competitive with several fungal diseases......

January 27, 2007	#9
amideutch Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Germany 49°26"N 07°36"E Posts: 5,041	PP, Stem Canker (Botrytis cinerea) check out this product which I mentioned previously, http://www.spray-n-growgardening.com...mber=ACT&top=7 and this product which has several uses and can be found at the above site also, http://www.physan.com/PAGES/C_G_G.html Physan is a general purpose bactericide and fungicide that is FDA approved. Hope this helps. If all else fails sterilize your soil and put the benificial organisims back into the soil with the products we have been discussing. Ami

January 28, 2007	#14
amideutch Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Germany 49°26"N 07°36"E Posts: 5,041	Consan Triple action 20 is different than Physan 20. I have not used the Physan as a foliar spray but for general disinfecting of pots and other garden related cleaning tasks. I have read where Physan 20 was sprayed in growing beds prior to planting out tomato plants with no signs of disease appearing later on. Physan dissipates 24 hours after use. Check out this website. Just enter the product name and do a search and it will give you all the information concerning it and toxicity information for the active ingredients. Ami www.pesticideinfo.org

February 22, 2007	#15
honu Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hawaii Posts: 270	Here is some info on arbuscular mycorrhizal fungus from our university: http://www.ctahr.hawaii.edu/oc/freepubs/pdf/SCM-5.pdf