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Old September 7, 2015   #16
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I grew several S. Pimpinellifoliums over the last 7 years. A few of them were very attractive to birds. My neighbor has an area filled in with large rocks. The birds dropped a few seed which promptly grew into highly productive but small fruited tomato plants that covered the rock area. I ate a double handful of very tasty ripe tomatoes from those plants this evening. They grow back from seed every year. I tell him he has the only natural reproducing population of wild tomato plants in the U.S. Are they as hardy as Johnson Grass? No, not quite.... but they are getting there. Next year I plan to drop a few LA0417 seed into his rocks and see what happens when a disease tolerant wild tomato hits those rocks. BTW, this rocky area is very similar to growing conditions in the native range of S. Pimpinellifolium in Peru and Ecuador.

It's amazing how tough and determined a plant can be, and if it is tasty too, well that just makes it even better.
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Old September 7, 2015   #17
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Organic is how something is grown.
That was my point exactly. Seeds are seeds. He claims his are "organic" seeds, and that's why his plants look so awful.. lol. And the only reason mine look so good and with so many tomatoes is because they are evil "Genetically Modified" seeds. He's usually pretty smart. I guess he just doesn't understand the difference in Selectively Bred and Genetically Modified.
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Old September 7, 2015   #18
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And a hybrid tomato is just a first generation cross between two varieties to get a plant with characteristics of both parents. People have been doing it for a long, long time and there's nothing scary about it. The only downside is that saved seeds are more likely to produce plants resembling one parent or the other. If you want to have the same result as the F1, you need to buy more seed.

Honestly, a hybrid is such a simple concept that it really blows my mind that people confuse it with something as advanced as GMO seed. Grit your teeth and smile, I guess. At least if you get more than two tomatoes you have the last laugh!
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And a hybrid tomato is just a first generation cross between two varieties to get a plant with characteristics of both parents. People have been doing it for a long, long time and there's nothing scary about it. The only downside is that saved seeds are more likely to produce plants resembling one parent or the other. If you want to have the same result as the F1, you need to buy more seed.

Honestly, a hybrid is such a simple concept that it really blows my mind that people confuse it with something as advanced as GMO seed. Grit your teeth and smile, I guess. At least if you get more than two tomatoes you have the last laugh!
This is because of all of the hype and misinformation on line today.
Anybody can get on line and say anything and some poor person will come along and take it as gospel.
Goggle Gesichhert and you will find people selling or buying Gesichhert Lugers.
The idiots see safe or secure on the safety in German and think it is a type of Luger.
Some people do buy organic seeds because they feel they are helping to contribute to the over all betterment of their environment.
They know full well there is no difference in the seeds but there is a difference form which they come.

It is a small squeak in a big roar but to them they are doing their part.
I commend them for this.
On the other hand dont beat up people that dont do it.
That is the key, tolerance and knowing when to not insult and leave folks alone.

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