Pubescent potato leaf???

macmanmatty · May 4, 2007

Has any one sucessfully crossed a pubscent tomato with a potato leaf and gotten a tomato with both traits in any of the f generations? My plan was to cross smokey mountain red with some potato leaf possibly aunt g's gold or lucky cross and get a pubscent potato leaf tomato. Does this sound like it will work?? Are these good tomatos to use?? Is there a better pubscent tomato out there?? If use lucky cross is there still a chance that I will get bi-color tomato in one of f generations?? Any suggestions or comments would be appreacted

**nctomatoman** · May 4, 2007

This has been done successfully before - Tad Smith, formerly of Virginia, created a variety called Fuzzy Bomb, which was a pubescent (angora-type foliage) potato leaf type with large red fruit (I think he crossed Angora with Prudens Purple or something like that - would have to dig through my old mail). I only grew it once, and never did grow out saved seed.

**Tom Wagner** · May 5, 2007

Pubescent or woolly genes in tomatoes have been around for quite a while. The trick I have found was to find one that was true breeding without any lethal consequences. I first released my Elberta Girl tomato variety that had that trait.

I have grown my own potato leaf, woolly strains of tomatoes for quite a few years too. The Brandy Stripe segregations that I sent Sahin in Holland in 1996 were potato leaf/woolly. I remember seeing in his greenhouse in Holland the three types; potato leaf/fully woolly, potato leaf/1/2 woolly, and potato leaf/ non woolly. The Sahin people released the non pubescent type as Vintage Wine. For some reason they must not have found the woolly potato leaf type interesting enough.

I have many true breeding and some still segregating potato leaf /woollies. Some dwarf, some yellows, some orange, some bicolored, green fleshed, etc.

Nobody is interested in such curiosities but I still use them in my breeding program here in Washington State. I think there is a use for the heterozygous form in outstanding hybrids for use in insect protection and creating pretty tomato vines. I have some potato leaf Cherokee Purple breeding lines which are slotted to be crossed with potato/wo lines this year.

Tom Wagner

May 4, 2007	#1
macmanmatty Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 55	Pubescent potato leaf??? Has any one sucessfully crossed a pubscent tomato with a potato leaf and gotten a tomato with both traits in any of the f generations? My plan was to cross smokey mountain red with some potato leaf possibly aunt g's gold or lucky cross and get a pubscent potato leaf tomato. Does this sound like it will work?? Are these good tomatos to use?? Is there a better pubscent tomato out there?? If use lucky cross is there still a chance that I will get bi-color tomato in one of f generations?? Any suggestions or comments would be appreacted

May 4, 2007	#2
nctomatoman Tomatoville® Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hendersonville, NC zone 7 Posts: 10,385	This has been done successfully before - Tad Smith, formerly of Virginia, created a variety called Fuzzy Bomb, which was a pubescent (angora-type foliage) potato leaf type with large red fruit (I think he crossed Angora with Prudens Purple or something like that - would have to dig through my old mail). I only grew it once, and never did grow out saved seed. __________________ Craig

May 5, 2007	#3
Tom Wagner Crosstalk™ Forum Moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: 8407 18th Ave West 7-203 Everett, Washington 98204 Posts: 1,157	Pubescent or woolly genes in tomatoes have been around for quite a while. The trick I have found was to find one that was true breeding without any lethal consequences. I first released my Elberta Girl tomato variety that had that trait. I have grown my own potato leaf, woolly strains of tomatoes for quite a few years too. The Brandy Stripe segregations that I sent Sahin in Holland in 1996 were potato leaf/woolly. I remember seeing in his greenhouse in Holland the three types; potato leaf/fully woolly, potato leaf/1/2 woolly, and potato leaf/ non woolly. The Sahin people released the non pubescent type as Vintage Wine. For some reason they must not have found the woolly potato leaf type interesting enough. I have many true breeding and some still segregating potato leaf /woollies. Some dwarf, some yellows, some orange, some bicolored, green fleshed, etc. Nobody is interested in such curiosities but I still use them in my breeding program here in Washington State. I think there is a use for the heterozygous form in outstanding hybrids for use in insect protection and creating pretty tomato vines. I have some potato leaf Cherokee Purple breeding lines which are slotted to be crossed with potato/wo lines this year. Tom Wagner