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February 11, 2017 | #1 |
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Red Robin
These are my Red Robin's. I have grown them for five generations. They are in air pruning pots and Coco Coir. I think Red Robin is an heirloom.
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But as for it being an heirloom, after doing a lot of searching I can find no evidence for that,some even say it's an F1 hybrid. https://www.google.com/search?q=red+..._AUIBygA&dpr=1 http://forums.gardenweb.com/discussi...from-red-robin Carolyn
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February 14, 2017 | #3 |
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I've got two growing right now. Stout, thick stem and deep green leaves.
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February 14, 2017 | #5 |
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What's air pruning?
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I'd appreciate it if you can tell me where you read that and post a link.
Thanks, Carolyn
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http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/74494/#b Carolyn
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February 15, 2017 | #8 |
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http://www.sakatavegetables.com/home...anum-Red-Robin
Sakata sells it but I don't see that they claim to have bred it and it is definitely OP. If you look through their catalog ( just click on "next variety" on this page to see) any tomato that is a hybrid is specifically labelled so with the name thoughout their website. Interestingly they sell it in both their ornamental and their vegetable listings and it is unusual in not being a hybrid since most everything else they sell is. Not sure if RR is an actual heirloom but it has been around for a while for sure and every seed company I have seen that sells it sells it as an OP or doesn't specify hybrid. I have grown it myself from home saved seed received in swaps. Enjoy your little mato's they are very cute plants I recommend to Check out the micro tomato threads here on TV Bettaponic, there are some busy breeders developing new ones, blacks, yellow, pinks, multi-flora, all kinds of things coming out of their work and they are often looking for folks to help with grow outs if that interests you. KarenO Last edited by KarenO; February 15, 2017 at 03:00 AM. |
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I will thank you.
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Sakata says they are wholesale only but do distribute seed to many commercial places in many countries.
I found this link to be very helpful http://www.sakatavegetables.com/inde...main/index.htm I clicked on the Northeast and found which companies sold Sakata seeds. And yes,in an earlier link I addressed whether it is F1 or OP and gave a link. And I also forgot to say that I found the place where it was said that it was an heirloom, but I'm not in the mood to go back and regoogle. Carolyn
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http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Red_Robin
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Aha, I overlooked the fact that I had saved the link that said it was an heirloom,not,
https://www.etsy.com/listing/4701246...FYmKswoddrAPRA And that place is here in NYS. Carolyn
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February 15, 2017 | #13 |
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The etsy site seems a little misleading. Red Robin is a pretty common variety.
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[QUOTE=BettaPonic;619204]Daves Garden says open pollinated. I have saved five generations of seed.
http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Red_Robin ***** Yes, and then I asked folks to read the comments that were made about DG saying it was OP, which gave a different perspective from some of those who grew it.. I think it's also good to know that when a hybrid is bred,and I'm talking about the earliest ones, that if the two parents are very similar then it's usually possible to get an OP out of it, as I did when I dehybridized Ramapo F1 to an OP and at the F3 it was already stable as Ed was noted as saying in this link http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Ramapo And yes,the two parents of the F1 are known. Carolyn
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Never mind, I Googled air pruning. I planted Red Robins today thanks to Heirloomtomatoguy.
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