Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.
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April 10, 2021 | #16 | |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Indiana
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I have two small plants of Start S F1. They were planted the same date as the FOJ and BB. |
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April 10, 2021 | #17 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Illinois
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So far, 2010 is the oldest to show up this season (Port Heart from Carolyn). I have a number from the early-to-mid '90s from Carolyn that I have been trying hard to get going. Fingers crossed.
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April 10, 2021 | #18 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Metro Denver
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Good luck with Port Heart!!
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April 10, 2021 | #19 |
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April 11, 2021 | #20 | |
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Brownville, Ne
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Several of my Carolyn trades over the years were abbreviations.
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April 11, 2021 | #21 | |
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Location: Vermont
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Shawn
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April 11, 2021 | #22 |
Tomatovillian™
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okay, i don't know why i thought i had planted just 5 seeds of yellow brandywine,
maybe got confused with the year 2005, but i now have nine plants up. that has to be it. keith
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March 12, 2022 | #23 |
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Canada
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The Original Dwarf Project first releases. I have sown them this year they would have been 2008 I think.. Everything germinated
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March 12, 2022 | #24 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Central MN, USDA Zone 3
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I got an Amish Yellow from 2002, but it looks to be a deadhead.
A single Romance (Ukrainian?) from 2004. And 5 Novogogoshary from 2003. All were of approximately 100 seeds in paper towels/ziplock sandwich bags and kept about 75 deg. There were about a dozen sorts equally as old that didn't wake up at all. I don't know what the secret is. I've tried weak bleach, H2O2, nitrate ion, tea, and more. Aside from heroics (like a microscopic embryo rescue) I think it's all potluck. I have had utter failures of seeds only 7 years old, and great germination of 12-year-old seed. You take what you get, I guess. Sent from my motorola edge using Tapatalk
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March 12, 2022 | #25 |
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: KS 5b/6a
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Lot of oldies in the tray this year. I presoaked in a paper towel (plain tap water) for 8 hours then planted into moist seedling mix with a little bottom heat from operating shop lights that are on the onions and cabbage.
It's been 5 days and now they're under lights because of the early germinations of newer seeds. So far I have a single Missouri Pink Love Apple from 6 seeds (all I had) from 2008. I'm trying to wake up Russian Bogatyr and Dr. Wyche's Yellow from Carolyn, 1994. Nothing yet. Monomakh's Hat and Cherokee Purple from 2012 woke up. I wonder if there is a tried and true way to increase the likelihood of germination of older seeds? I need to look back through Carolyn's old posts, because I remember her talking about waking up old seeds. I have some vague, and possibly imaginary, memory of using diluted hydrogen peroxide; is that correct?? |
March 12, 2022 | #26 |
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Location: Vermont
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You should search to be sure, but I recall that Carolyn's method involved diluted Miracle Grow, for the slight nitrogen boost.
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March 12, 2022 | #27 | |
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Location: Central MN, USDA Zone 3
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Gibberellin has been mentioned as well, but I haven't tried it. Sent from my motorola edge using Tapatalk
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March 16, 2022 | #28 |
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Alabama
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Correct re hydrogen peroxide. I trialed the method about 2007 or thereabouts. Plants need oxygen to stimulate growth. Seed soaked in dilute H2O2 germinate and grow where untreated seed just sit there.
Here are the conditions: 1. Seed need water to germinate, enough to saturate the seed, but not so much that the seed are flooded. 2. Seed need a source of nitrogen to stimulate growth. This is a very tiny amount. 1/4 teaspoon of miracle grow 15-30-15 in a gallon of water will do the trick for soaking seed. 3. Mix 2% hydrogen peroxide 1 Tablespoon with 5 Tablespoons of water and soak the seed for a couple of hours. This does two things. It kills bacteria on the seed coat and provides oxygen for the embryo. 4. Many older methods relied on strong tea in which the seed were soaked overnight. This works, but most of the effect is from providing water to the seed. 5. Heat at the right level is necessary. Tomato seed germinate best around 85 degrees in my experience. I put old seed in a chicken egg incubator and set it to 85 degrees. I've done something similar by setting trays of plants on top of my shoplights that I use for seedlings. |
March 16, 2022 | #29 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: KS 5b/6a
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Good info, Fusion. Thanks.
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March 19, 2022 | #30 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: May 2008
Location: zone 5 Colorado
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Thanks for the info, Fusion. It will help the beginner AND the 'best' of gardeners.
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