Is it Ananas noir or Ananas noire

[farmerted361]

Is it Ananas noir or Ananas noire?
I have received seed packaged with both names printed.
Are they one in the sme due to a mis-spelling or are they two different varieties?

Thanks, farmerted361

[carolyn137]

It's Ananas Noire as first listed in the SSE Yearbook a few years ago by a person in Blegium who got the variety from a friend who found it in a patch of Pineapple ( tomato variety) plants.

Spelled Ananas Noir it's still the same variety.

I'm guilty myself of sometimes not remembering if the noir is noir or noire for a specific variety.

And at GW there was a very long thread a while back on the noir/noire issue which I have conveniently decided to obliterate from my memory.

[feldon30]

Well, not to start again, but since ananas (pineapple) is masculine, I cannot think of any reason why it would be Ananas Noire. Ananas Noir is grammatically correct. Unless there are some rules about plant varieties or the species of plant taking precedence on noun gender.

Then again, it could be argued that the popular variety Yellow Flame should be Flamme jaune and not Jaune Flamme.

[dcarch]

Originally Posted by feldon27

Well, not to start again, but since ananas (pineapple) is masculine, I cannot think of any reason why it would be Ananas Noire. ------------[/i].

Not so soon. I don't think it's black and white. "Tomato" is feminine so it should be Ananas Noire

dcarch :wink:
I am glad I am not French

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by feldon27

Well, not to start again, but since ananas (pineapple) is masculine, I cannot think of any reason why it would be Ananas Noire. Ananas Noir is grammatically correct. Unless there are some rules about plant varieties or the species of plant taking precedence on noun gender.

Well you have started it again Feldon, , and what you say has been said, by several, in that older post at GW that I referred to.

And I forget the reasons why it should be Noire but they were clearly stated. Apparently there are several regions within Belgium where the language dialects are different, that much I remember from that thread.

And if the man who found this variety gave it to the Belgium guy who was a friend, to list at SSE, the spelling that he used is good enough for me and I'd think for others, for he alone should know what's correct for his language where he lives.

Yeah, the masculine/feminine dealie was talked about at length. Maybe you can find that old thread at GW and resurrect it to read it.

In the end, the guy who found it in his patch of Pineapple plants said Noire. QED


Then again, it could be argued that the popular variety Yellow Flame should be Flamme jaune and not Jaune Flamme.

[feldon30]

Although I didn't say all that (the quote tags are worth cleaning up so it is clear who-said-what), I understand the points being made that in Belgium, black is noire (feminine) and I did have that suspicion that if it's a tomato variety, then the fact that tomato is also feminine might be the issue.

[carolyn137]

Although I didn't say all that (the quote tags are worth cleaning up so it is clear who-said-what),

So I goofed and knew it. Karen, my cleaning lady, came in and I was rushed, but I think it's abundantly clear that my reponse starts with:

Well you have started it again Feldon, , and what you say has been said, by several, in that older post at GW that I referred to.

And from there to the end are my words, not yours.

And so it goes.

[Mischka]

I'll throw my 2¢ in here and say that regardless of the genderizing of the color black, Ananas Noire was one hell of a good tomato in my garden last season.

After growing Big Rainbow and Burracker's Favorite a few times, I was pretty skeptical that Ananas Noire would taste good growing here in Massachusetts.

I was dead wrong.

This one's on my top 20 list. :wink:

[dcarch]

Originally Posted by Mischka

I'll throw my 2¢ in here and say that regardless of the genderizing of the color black, Ananas Noire was one hell of a good tomato in my garden last season. ------------------ :wink:

Does this discription of Ananas Noire sound masculine?

"This wonderful Belgian tomato variety is a true gem as it features extremely smooth fruit that feature a genuine kaleidoscope of colors which alternate between a jade green, a stunning purple and a bright yellow. When the tomatoes are sliced, the tomato reveals a bright green flesh with deep crimson streaks of color. When eaten, the multi colored flesh reveals a true delight, having a wonderful sweet, smoky flavor with a slight hint of citrus. Amazingly enough, unlike so many other rarer tomato varieties, Ananas Noire/Black Pineapple is a very, very productive variety that is capable of producing a very heavy yield. "

My 3¢.

dcarch :wink:

[daylilydude]

dcarch asks :
Does this discription of Ananas Noire sound masculine?

"This wonderful Belgian tomato variety is a true gem as it features extremely smooth fruit that feature a genuine kaleidoscope of colors which alternate between a jade green, a stunning purple and a bright yellow. When the tomatoes are sliced, the tomato reveals a bright green flesh with deep crimson streaks of color. When eaten, the multi colored flesh reveals a true delight, having a wonderful sweet, smoky flavor with a slight hint of citrus. Amazingly enough, unlike so many other rarer tomato varieties, Ananas Noire/Black Pineapple is a very, very productive variety that is capable of producing a very heavy yield. "


TOO SEXY! :wink:

[landarc]

The pink color helps too.