Deciding the 2012 patch

KLorentz · December 4, 2011

Well it is time to start thinking about next years patch..Since everything I lost this year has been replaced(well almost) thanks to kind folks here and elsewhere . It will be very interesting to see how well everything does here at the new digs.Here is what I have decided so far.

Al-Kuffa

Thessaloniki

Brandywine(Cowlicks,Sudduth,Red and Yellow)

Rose

Cosmonaut Volkov

Dana's Dusky Rose

Hoy

Terhune

Green Giant

Earl's Faux

Stump of the World

Black from Tula

Black Krim

So what do y'all think? And what will you grow.

Kevin

dustyrivergarden · December 4, 2011

Lovely selection of tomatoes. I could not resist some of the seeds from wild boar farms so I am going to try a few of theirs.
Berkley Tie-Dye
Sweet Carneros Pink
Trentons Tiger
Solar Flare
Golden Gates
Then the ones that my family requests every year.
Juliet
Chocolate Cherry
Sungold
San Marzano
Mr Stripey
liams brandywine

December 4, 2011

Okay,

Here is my 2012 list. I have thirty four varieties listed but only have space for about thirty. The dwarf varieties will grow in pots. I've marked a few with question marks as those I will sacrifice if I can't find room to grow them in the garden or if something more interesting appears in the next couple of weeks. (I will be planting my seed under lights in mid December). The varieties marked with X2 indicate my intent to grow extra seedlings to use as fillers if some fail to germinate or succumb to a late frost.

I still grow a few hybrids because they usually have some disease resistance and will produce even in a bad season.

1. Barlow Jap
2. Berkeley Tie-Dye Pink
3. ? Big Beef (hybrid)
4. Black Cherry
5. Black Krim
6. Brandywine Pink
7. Bush Goliath (hybrid) X 2
8. Captain Lucky
9. Carbon
10. Cowlicks Brandywine
11. Druzba
12. Earl’s Faux
13. Fourth Of July (hybrid) X 2
14. Fred Limbaughs Potato Top
15. Gary O’Sena
16. Granny’s Heart
17. Hillbilly
18. Hoy
19. Indian Stripe
20. Jaune Flamme
21. JD’s Special C Tex
22. Jetsetter (hybrid)
23. ? Juliet (hybrid)
24. KBX
25. Mortgage Lifter
26. Neves Azorean Red
27. ? Prudens Purple
28. ? Prue
29. Spudakee
30. Stump Of The World
31. Sungold F1 ( hybrid)
32. Tarasenko 6
33. Terhune
34. Wes

Dwarf Plants
Dwarf Beryl Beauty
Dwarf Emerald Giant
Dwarf Rosella Purple
Dwarf Summertime Gold

Alpinejs · December 4, 2011

I love it when I look at the lists of others and see a lot of the same ones that
I am growing. When I see that, I reach around and pat myself on the back
and say "Obviously, you are one smart fella!!

FWIW, here is my list.....
Abe Lincoln
--Amazon Chocolate
--Aunt Gerties Gold
--Aunt Molly’s Ground Cherries
--Aunt Ruby’s German Green
--Beefsteak
--Berkley Tie-dye
--Big Beef
--Black Cherry
--Black Krim
--Black from Tula
--Blondkopfchen
--Boccone
--Box Car Willie --Brad’s Black Heart
--Brandywine
--Brandywine OTV
--Cherokee Green
--Cherokee Purple
--Costoluto Genovese
--Cowlicks
--Cuostrolee
--Early Girl
--Earl’s Faux - -German Johnson
--Giant Belgium
--Golden Queen
--Green Doctors
--Green Pineapple
--Green Zebra
--Green giant
--Indian Stripe
--J.D.’s Spec C-Tex
--KBX
--Kelloggs Breakfast
--Kosovo
--Mariana’s Peace
--Mortgage Lifter
--Neves Azorean Red
--New Big Dwarf
--Paul Robeson
--Pineapple
--Pruden’s purple
--Prue
--Riesenstab
--Stump of the World
--Stupice
--Suddath
--Sungold f1
--Sunsugar
--Super Snow White --Terhune
--Virginia Sweet
--Wes
--Yellow Brandywine

December 4, 2011

Alpinejs,

With that list, you probably have ninety percent of the varieties everyone is growing covered. You should pat yourself on the back. I'm patting myself on the back for limiting my ambition for 2012 to only thirty four varieties.

Good Luck

Ted

tgplp · December 5, 2011

Wow! everyone has such long lists. I'm jealous.

I have barely any room, so I take forever deciding what to grow. Luckily I LOVE leafing through catalogs, and researching different varieties. I do a lot of tomato research in the winter to keep myself sane... if I had a tomato-less winter, I would go crazy.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dustyrivergarden

Lovely selection of tomatoes. I could not resist some of the seeds from wild boar farms so I am going to try a few of theirs.
Berkley Tie-Dye
Sweet Carneros Pink
Trentons Tiger
Solar Flare
Golden Gates
Then the ones that my family requests every year.
Juliet
Chocolate Cherry
Sungold
San Marzano
Mr Stripey
liams brandywine

I agree- this year I'll be growing alot of their varieties, they look so interesting and I've heard great things about them.

Taryn

Alpinejs · December 5, 2011

Sirtanen....on the contrary, I don't have a lot of room to grow tomatoes. My
property is totally shaded by tall pine trees. Therefore, I must do all my
gardening in 7 gal. containers on floating docks in the lagoon. I lucked out
yesterday and got 38 7 gal. pails at a yard sale for $5. I now have room for
about 65 plants. Few pests, no varmits, less risk of frost, no weeds and I
can get a tan while working in my "garden". I will have about half in 5 gal.
pails and the rest in 7 gal. pail. I wish they were all 7 gal.

b54red · December 5, 2011

I have cut my planting list by more than half and still have over 60 on my list. I'm sure that I won't even plant one of all of them because I will definitely be planting more than one of some of my favorites. My list of new varieties for this year is only about a half dozen as opposed to the usual 50 or more new ones I have tried in each of the last couple of years.

1884
Barlow Jap
Bella Rosa F-1
Big Beef F-1
Big Cheef
Bill's Red (volunteer)
Black Krim
Black Volunteer (Bill's)
Brandy Boy
Brandywine Cowlick's
Brandywine Sudduth's
BTDP
Cherokee Purple
Crnkovic Yugoslavian
Dana's Dusky Rose
David's Pink (volunteer)
Donskoi
Dothan's Cherry
Dr. Wyches Yellow
EPB X Big Beef
Eva Purple Ball
Fish Lake Oxheart
Frank's Large Red
Gary O' Sena
Germaid Red
German Johnson
Goliath
Green Giant
Grub's Mystery Green
Hege German Pink
Indian Stripeless Red
IS
IS pl
JD's Special C Tex
Jetsetter
KBX
Kosovo
Limbaugh's Legacy
Lithuanian
Lucky Cross
Lumpy Red
Malinowy Olbrzym
Maraton F-1
Marianna's Peace
Matina
Medino F-1
Milka's Red Bulgarian
Moreton
Mrs Benson
Nepal
Neves Azorean Red
Old Virginia
Oleyar's German
Pineapple
Ramapo
Red Barn
Red Siberian
Rose
Spudakee
Stump of the World
Tarasenko 6
Terhune
V.B. Russia
Virginia Sweets

**carolyn137** · December 5, 2011

Dusty, just so you know, Liam's Brandywine isn't a pure Brandywine. It was found when a friend of Craig LeHoullier's was helping Craig grow out selections from the accidental cross between Brandywine X Tad which led to Little Lucky and Lucky Cross and several other varieties from that cross.

So it has Tad genes in it as well as Brandywine genes.

Bill, what the heck is Indian Stripeless Red?

As for Carolyn's 2012 grow out list, she doesn't have a clue right now. Not a clue. After three straight lousy years here weatherwise she thinks of throwing in the proverbial towel, but then anything she grows is also grown by the good guys who do her seed productions for her and Craig who has been growing her plants for her, so who knows.

If anyone has a motherless previously undistributed, even unnamed variety, she is ready to adopt said motherless variety and provide love, good music, excellent dark chocolate and much more to such an adoptee b/c her job is to find such seeds.

cloz · December 4, 2011

I'm trying to cut down from the 73 varieties I planted last year so this list is still a work in progress.

1. Absinthe
2. Amazon Chocolate
3. Arkansas Traveler
4. Azoychka
5. Barlow Jap
6. Bearclaw
7. Big Beef (Hybrid)
8. Black Cherry
9. Boxcar Willie
10. Brandywine Sudduth
11. Brandywine Red (Landis Valley)
12. Brandywine from Croatia
13. Costoluto Genovese
14. Cuore di Bue
15. Cowlick's Brandywine
16. Danko
17. Djena Lee's Golden Girl
18. Eagle's Beak
19. Earl's Faux
20. Earl of Edgecomb
21. Flortis Cherry
22. Gary O'Sena
23. Goose Creek
24. Grandfather Ashlock
25. Granny Cantrell
26. Granny's Heart
27. Hege German Pink
28. Hoy
29. Jd's Special C-tex
30. Marizol Bratka
31. Lucky Cross
32. Little Lucky
33. Nepal
34. Neves Azorean Red
35. Paul Robeson
36. Pork Chop
37. Princepe Borghese
38. Prue
39. Sophie's Choice
40. Spudakee
41. Stump of the World
42. Stupice
43. Sungold F1 (maybe 3 plants. My daughter eats a ton of them)
44. Tarasenko 6
45. Terhune
46. Zogola

Dwarfs
1. Dwarf Beryl Beauty
2. Dwarf Mr. Snow
3. Dwarf Wild Fred
4. Iditarod Red
5. Perth Pride
6. Rosella Purple
7. Sleeping Lady
8. Summertime Gold
9. Summertime Green
10. Tasmanian Chocolate
11. Yukon Quest

sirtanon · December 4, 2011

I, on the other hand, look at folks like yourselves that are lucky enough to have such a huge grow list (and obviously room to grow them) and think to myself.. lucky suckers.

..see, I don't have much room and I'm limited to just:

Noire de Coseboeuf
Mary Robinson
Fandango
Kimberley
Brad's Black Heart
Jaune Flammee
Rosso Bruno (Kumato) F2
Campari F2
Delicious
..and a couple (hopefully) dwarf varieties from the project.

At least I get to enjoy some of my own produce

dustyrivergarden · December 5, 2011

Thanks carolyn137 I did research liams brandywine before I planted it last year and I did read that but it was new and I wanted to try it . It was more productive than my pink brandywine and had a very nice taste I thought I would try it one more year. The one tomato that I was surprised with was the mr stripey I found that to be the best eating tomato out of the bunch and tons of fruit.

**carolyn137** · December 5, 2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by dustyrivergarden

Thanks carolyn137 I did research liams brandywine before I planted it last year and I did read that but it was new and I wanted to try it . It was more productive than my pink brandywine and had a very nice taste I thought I would try it one more year. The one tomato that I was surprised with was the mr stripey I found that to be the best eating tomato out of the bunch and tons of fruit.

Glad to hear that you did know that it wasn't another Brandywine strain as some folks have thought.

The end result for any variety we grow, really, is how well we like it, and I posted about it b'c I think that each person should try to know all they can about every variety they grow.

But that's just me and for sure for some varieties nothing is known.

clkeiper · December 5, 2011

Has anyone tried Brandymaster series? I am assuming it is a hybrid of a brandywine an who knows what?, as I know next to nothing about genetic lines here I have no knowledge as to whether it is a tasty tomato or just a nice looking tomato. I have it on my list for next year to try, but if anyone has any input before I order it, I would be appreciative of said info. Thanks. Carolyn

lurley · December 5, 2011

I have grown all the brandymaster hybrids and they had good enough flavor and production for me to grow them again. My only issue is I mixed up the tags on the pink and red and didn't know which was which, and I needed to know because one was regular leaf. I emailed the company twice to request more info because the catalog lists all three as potato leaf, but some photos also showed regular leaf? I never got an answer to my questions wondering if the seed I had was wrong or if the catalog description/pictures were wrong, so while I will use up what I have, I won't order them again until I get an answer, if ever.

December 4, 2011	#1
KLorentz Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Stryker, Ohio Posts: 995	Deciding the 2012 patch Well it is time to start thinking about next years patch..Since everything I lost this year has been replaced(well almost) thanks to kind folks here and elsewhere . It will be very interesting to see how well everything does here at the new digs.Here is what I have decided so far. Al-Kuffa Thessaloniki Brandywine(Cowlicks,Sudduth,Red and Yellow) Rose Cosmonaut Volkov Dana's Dusky Rose Hoy Terhune Green Giant Earl's Faux Stump of the World Black from Tula Black Krim So what do y'all think? And what will you grow. Kevin

December 4, 2011	#2
dustyrivergarden Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Holbrook, Az zone 5 Posts: 157	Lovely selection of tomatoes. I could not resist some of the seeds from wild boar farms so I am going to try a few of theirs. Berkley Tie-Dye Sweet Carneros Pink Trentons Tiger Solar Flare Golden Gates Then the ones that my family requests every year. Juliet Chocolate Cherry Sungold San Marzano Mr Stripey liams brandywine __________________ “The yield of a crop is LIMITED by the deficiency of any one element even though all of the other necessary elements are present in adequate amounts”. J. Von Liebig's law of the minimum. Last edited by dustyrivergarden; December 4, 2011 at 05:56 PM. Reason: another tomato I like to grow.

December 5, 2011	#9
carolyn137 Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Upstate NY, zone 4b/5a Posts: 21,169	Dusty, just so you know, Liam's Brandywine isn't a pure Brandywine. It was found when a friend of Craig LeHoullier's was helping Craig grow out selections from the accidental cross between Brandywine X Tad which led to Little Lucky and Lucky Cross and several other varieties from that cross. So it has Tad genes in it as well as Brandywine genes. Bill, what the heck is Indian Stripeless Red? As for Carolyn's 2012 grow out list, she doesn't have a clue right now. Not a clue. After three straight lousy years here weatherwise she thinks of throwing in the proverbial towel, but then anything she grows is also grown by the good guys who do her seed productions for her and Craig who has been growing her plants for her, so who knows. If anyone has a motherless previously undistributed, even unnamed variety, she is ready to adopt said motherless variety and provide love, good music, excellent dark chocolate and much more to such an adoptee b/c her job is to find such seeds. __________________ Carolyn

December 4, 2011	#11
sirtanon Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ (zone 9b) Posts: 796	I, on the other hand, look at folks like yourselves that are lucky enough to have such a huge grow list (and obviously room to grow them) and think to myself.. lucky suckers. ..see, I don't have much room and I'm limited to just: Noire de Coseboeuf Mary Robinson Fandango Kimberley Brad's Black Heart Jaune Flammee Rosso Bruno (Kumato) F2 Campari F2 Delicious ..and a couple (hopefully) dwarf varieties from the project. At least I get to enjoy some of my own produce __________________ I could sail by on the winds of silence, and maybe they won't notice... but this time I think it would be better if I swim..

December 5, 2011	#12
dustyrivergarden Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Holbrook, Az zone 5 Posts: 157	Thanks carolyn137 I did research liams brandywine before I planted it last year and I did read that but it was new and I wanted to try it . It was more productive than my pink brandywine and had a very nice taste I thought I would try it one more year. The one tomato that I was surprised with was the mr stripey I found that to be the best eating tomato out of the bunch and tons of fruit. __________________ “The yield of a crop is LIMITED by the deficiency of any one element even though all of the other necessary elements are present in adequate amounts”. J. Von Liebig's law of the minimum.

December 4, 2011	#3
tedln Guest Posts: n/a	Okay, Here is my 2012 list. I have thirty four varieties listed but only have space for about thirty. The dwarf varieties will grow in pots. I've marked a few with question marks as those I will sacrifice if I can't find room to grow them in the garden or if something more interesting appears in the next couple of weeks. (I will be planting my seed under lights in mid December). The varieties marked with X2 indicate my intent to grow extra seedlings to use as fillers if some fail to germinate or succumb to a late frost. I still grow a few hybrids because they usually have some disease resistance and will produce even in a bad season. 1. Barlow Jap 2. Berkeley Tie-Dye Pink 3. ? Big Beef (hybrid) 4. Black Cherry 5. Black Krim 6. Brandywine Pink 7. Bush Goliath (hybrid) X 2 8. Captain Lucky 9. Carbon 10. Cowlicks Brandywine 11. Druzba 12. Earl’s Faux 13. Fourth Of July (hybrid) X 2 14. Fred Limbaughs Potato Top 15. Gary O’Sena 16. Granny’s Heart 17. Hillbilly 18. Hoy 19. Indian Stripe 20. Jaune Flamme 21. JD’s Special C Tex 22. Jetsetter (hybrid) 23. ? Juliet (hybrid) 24. KBX 25. Mortgage Lifter 26. Neves Azorean Red 27. ? Prudens Purple 28. ? Prue 29. Spudakee 30. Stump Of The World 31. Sungold F1 ( hybrid) 32. Tarasenko 6 33. Terhune 34. Wes Dwarf Plants Dwarf Beryl Beauty Dwarf Emerald Giant Dwarf Rosella Purple Dwarf Summertime Gold

December 4, 2011	#4
Alpinejs Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Alpine, Calif. in winter. Sandpoint Lake, Ont. Canada summers Posts: 850	I love it when I look at the lists of others and see a lot of the same ones that I am growing. When I see that, I reach around and pat myself on the back and say "Obviously, you are one smart fella!! FWIW, here is my list..... Abe Lincoln --Amazon Chocolate --Aunt Gerties Gold --Aunt Molly’s Ground Cherries --Aunt Ruby’s German Green --Beefsteak --Berkley Tie-dye --Big Beef --Black Cherry --Black Krim --Black from Tula --Blondkopfchen --Boccone --Box Car Willie --Brad’s Black Heart --Brandywine --Brandywine OTV --Cherokee Green --Cherokee Purple --Costoluto Genovese --Cowlicks --Cuostrolee --Early Girl --Earl’s Faux - -German Johnson --Giant Belgium --Golden Queen --Green Doctors --Green Pineapple --Green Zebra --Green giant --Indian Stripe --J.D.’s Spec C-Tex --KBX --Kelloggs Breakfast --Kosovo --Mariana’s Peace --Mortgage Lifter --Neves Azorean Red --New Big Dwarf --Paul Robeson --Pineapple --Pruden’s purple --Prue --Riesenstab --Stump of the World --Stupice --Suddath --Sungold f1 --Sunsugar --Super Snow White --Terhune --Virginia Sweet --Wes --Yellow Brandywine

December 5, 2011	#8
b54red Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Alabama Posts: 7,068	I have cut my planting list by more than half and still have over 60 on my list. I'm sure that I won't even plant one of all of them because I will definitely be planting more than one of some of my favorites. My list of new varieties for this year is only about a half dozen as opposed to the usual 50 or more new ones I have tried in each of the last couple of years. 1884 Barlow Jap Bella Rosa F-1 Big Beef F-1 Big Cheef Bill's Red (volunteer) Black Krim Black Volunteer (Bill's) Brandy Boy Brandywine Cowlick's Brandywine Sudduth's BTDP Cherokee Purple Crnkovic Yugoslavian Dana's Dusky Rose David's Pink (volunteer) Donskoi Dothan's Cherry Dr. Wyches Yellow EPB X Big Beef Eva Purple Ball Fish Lake Oxheart Frank's Large Red Gary O' Sena Germaid Red German Johnson Goliath Green Giant Grub's Mystery Green Hege German Pink Indian Stripeless Red IS IS pl JD's Special C Tex Jetsetter KBX Kosovo Limbaugh's Legacy Lithuanian Lucky Cross Lumpy Red Malinowy Olbrzym Maraton F-1 Marianna's Peace Matina Medino F-1 Milka's Red Bulgarian Moreton Mrs Benson Nepal Neves Azorean Red Old Virginia Oleyar's German Pineapple Ramapo Red Barn Red Siberian Rose Spudakee Stump of the World Tarasenko 6 Terhune V.B. Russia Virginia Sweets

December 4, 2011	#10
cloz Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Southern Connecticut Posts: 435	I'm trying to cut down from the 73 varieties I planted last year so this list is still a work in progress. 1. Absinthe 2. Amazon Chocolate 3. Arkansas Traveler 4. Azoychka 5. Barlow Jap 6. Bearclaw 7. Big Beef (Hybrid) 8. Black Cherry 9. Boxcar Willie 10. Brandywine Sudduth 11. Brandywine Red (Landis Valley) 12. Brandywine from Croatia 13. Costoluto Genovese 14. Cuore di Bue 15. Cowlick's Brandywine 16. Danko 17. Djena Lee's Golden Girl 18. Eagle's Beak 19. Earl's Faux 20. Earl of Edgecomb 21. Flortis Cherry 22. Gary O'Sena 23. Goose Creek 24. Grandfather Ashlock 25. Granny Cantrell 26. Granny's Heart 27. Hege German Pink 28. Hoy 29. Jd's Special C-tex 30. Marizol Bratka 31. Lucky Cross 32. Little Lucky 33. Nepal 34. Neves Azorean Red 35. Paul Robeson 36. Pork Chop 37. Princepe Borghese 38. Prue 39. Sophie's Choice 40. Spudakee 41. Stump of the World 42. Stupice 43. Sungold F1 (maybe 3 plants. My daughter eats a ton of them) 44. Tarasenko 6 45. Terhune 46. Zogola Dwarfs 1. Dwarf Beryl Beauty 2. Dwarf Mr. Snow 3. Dwarf Wild Fred 4. Iditarod Red 5. Perth Pride 6. Rosella Purple 7. Sleeping Lady 8. Summertime Gold 9. Summertime Green 10. Tasmanian Chocolate 11. Yukon Quest

December 5, 2011	#14
clkeiper Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: ohio Posts: 4,350	Has anyone tried Brandymaster series? I am assuming it is a hybrid of a brandywine an who knows what?, as I know next to nothing about genetic lines here I have no knowledge as to whether it is a tasty tomato or just a nice looking tomato. I have it on my list for next year to try, but if anyone has any input before I order it, I would be appreciative of said info. Thanks. Carolyn __________________ carolyn k

December 5, 2011	#15
lurley Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Central Ohio Posts: 741	I have grown all the brandymaster hybrids and they had good enough flavor and production for me to grow them again. My only issue is I mixed up the tags on the pink and red and didn't know which was which, and I needed to know because one was regular leaf. I emailed the company twice to request more info because the catalog lists all three as potato leaf, but some photos also showed regular leaf? I never got an answer to my questions wondering if the seed I had was wrong or if the catalog description/pictures were wrong, so while I will use up what I have, I won't order them again until I get an answer, if ever.