Mystery changing colour

Medbury Gardens · July 19, 2012

As the years past,i'm noticing there's more white appearing on the inside of my Mystery potato line,so this season just past i started to cut open a few from each plant and only kept spuds for replanting from the plants that had the most purple,anyone got thoughts on whether this will help,i would have thought that been a clone the colours would be stable from one year to the next

wingnut · July 19, 2012

Potatoes are chimeras, nutrition also can play a part. do you use anything to "re-mineralize" your soil?

wmontanez · July 19, 2012

I'll pay attention to your mystery clone that I have to see if it shows white here as well as the F2 selections from Mystery TPS . In their segregation the solid purple that I have has a round shape and the urenika shape has more white but was really good flavor.

Darren Abbey · July 19, 2012

Wingnut, what do you mean by 'chimera'? My understanding of the term refers to when one organism is composed of cells of more than one distinct genetic type.

wingnut · July 19, 2012

Darren, google chimera potato. There are many explainations better than I can give.

Medbury Gardens · July 19, 2012

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Originally Posted by wingnut

Potatoes are chimeras, nutrition also can play a part. do you use anything to "re-mineralize" your soil?

Yes i added rock phosphate two years ago,i'm about to get some more Granite dust and spread that over and each season i apply http://www.tuigarden.co.nz/product/t...lue-fertiliser

I dont lime because the PH is 6.5.

Medbury Gardens · July 19, 2012

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Originally Posted by wmontanez

I'll pay attention to your mystery clone that I have to see if it shows white here as well as the F2 selections from Mystery TPS . In their segregation the solid purple that I have has a round shape and the urenika shape has more white but was really good flavor.

In yet the Urenika grown by other gardening friends doen't have any white.
It will be interesting to see how the colours in your Mystery turn out Wendy

wmontanez · July 19, 2012

Oh really? Then maybe is something about soil since I grew more than one plant I can cut open several and take pictures for you. None has made berries yet but they are still in bloom. I am way behind taking pictures this year. I did a walkthrough in my potato patch and spotted few berries. This year has been over 90F and that causes issues.

wingnut · July 19, 2012

wendy do you hand pollinate?

wmontanez · July 20, 2012

Doug to be complete honest...no I don't. I let the bees do the work because I like open pollination and also because I am afraid that if I cross into that territory I will become obsessed with it.

I tried last year with Skagit Valley Gold and Squat Orange, I made few crosses but none took.

This year I've seen berries on Azule Rose, Cosima x Kern Toro, Huagalina, Yungay so no much going on.

wingnut · July 20, 2012

An easy way to do it is collect pollen from multiple plants then mix and dab with a paint brush. Same as what the bees do, but more productive.

Medbury Gardens · July 20, 2012

Something ive never tried either but should really have a go at though.

Ive got some TPS of Cara,Moie moie and Catriona that i'm planing on sowing this weekend but i would like to have been able to have had TPS from Rima which never produces berries,so do you think i may get berries from it if i gave the hand pollinated a try.

wingnut · July 20, 2012

The difference between the plots I hand pollinate and don't is hundreds to one. Seriously! I use a vibrating tool and a shot glass to collect pollen in the morning, then just go down the rows dabbing it on the pistils with a small paint brush as I go. to make specific crosses takes me a little longer as I have to emasculate unopened flowers and remove all blossoms not emasculated and pollinated by me. Those I repeatedly dab pollen from donor for 3-4 consecutive days (although I usually get berry set within 48hrs if I'm gonna get it).

Medbury Gardens · July 21, 2012

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Originally Posted by wingnut

The difference between the plots I hand pollinate and don't is hundreds to one. Seriously! I use a vibrating tool and a shot glass to collect pollen in the morning, then just go down the rows dabbing it on the pistils with a small paint brush as I go.

So are you doing this within the same variety

wingnut · July 22, 2012

I use tetreploid pollen on tetraploids and diploid pollen on diploids. I mix multiple varieties when I do this.So They are truely open pollinated as I do not know which pollen produced the berries.
I also do specific crosses where I emasculate the flower use specific pollen donor, and tag the flower cluster. When I do this I remove ALL buds not emasculated to prevent confusion.

July 19, 2012	#1
Medbury Gardens Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Medbury, New Zealand Posts: 1,881	Mystery changing colour As the years past,i'm noticing there's more white appearing on the inside of my Mystery potato line,so this season just past i started to cut open a few from each plant and only kept spuds for replanting from the plants that had the most purple,anyone got thoughts on whether this will help,i would have thought that been a clone the colours would be stable from one year to the next __________________ Richard

July 19, 2012	#3
wmontanez Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: MA Posts: 776	I'll pay attention to your mystery clone that I have to see if it shows white here as well as the F2 selections from Mystery TPS . In their segregation the solid purple that I have has a round shape and the urenika shape has more white but was really good flavor. __________________ Wendy

July 19, 2012	#8
wmontanez Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: MA Posts: 776	Oh really? Then maybe is something about soil since I grew more than one plant I can cut open several and take pictures for you. None has made berries yet but they are still in bloom. I am way behind taking pictures this year. I did a walkthrough in my potato patch and spotted few berries. This year has been over 90F and that causes issues. __________________ Wendy

July 20, 2012	#10
wmontanez Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: MA Posts: 776	Doug to be complete honest...no I don't. I let the bees do the work because I like open pollination and also because I am afraid that if I cross into that territory I will become obsessed with it. I tried last year with Skagit Valley Gold and Squat Orange, I made few crosses but none took. This year I've seen berries on Azule Rose, Cosima x Kern Toro, Huagalina, Yungay so no much going on. __________________ Wendy

July 20, 2012	#12
Medbury Gardens Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Medbury, New Zealand Posts: 1,881	Something ive never tried either but should really have a go at though. Ive got some TPS of Cara,Moie moie and Catriona that i'm planing on sowing this weekend but i would like to have been able to have had TPS from Rima which never produces berries,so do you think i may get berries from it if i gave the hand pollinated a try. __________________ Richard

July 19, 2012	#2
wingnut Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2011 Location: bald hill area thurston county washington Posts: 312	Potatoes are chimeras, nutrition also can play a part. do you use anything to "re-mineralize" your soil?

July 19, 2012	#4
Darren Abbey Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Minnesota Posts: 586	Wingnut, what do you mean by 'chimera'? My understanding of the term refers to when one organism is composed of cells of more than one distinct genetic type.

July 22, 2012	#15
wingnut Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2011 Location: bald hill area thurston county washington Posts: 312	I use tetreploid pollen on tetraploids and diploid pollen on diploids. I mix multiple varieties when I do this.So They are truely open pollinated as I do not know which pollen produced the berries. I also do specific crosses where I emasculate the flower use specific pollen donor, and tag the flower cluster. When I do this I remove ALL buds not emasculated to prevent confusion.