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Old June 24, 2017   #76
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In almost all cases, seeds of this one won't be any different. It looks better/different due to random variations in growth. But there is a tiny chance that this tomato looks different/better than the others because it has some small spontaneous mutation. This might be, for example, some mutation that allows it to utilize nutrients in a more effective way.

Mutations don't happen often. For example, how many Omar's Lebanese tomatoes were produced in the world before one came out heart-shaped? But it did happen. So there's that little bit of a chance, and that gives us a little bit of hope, that saving seed from the best might just maybe give an improved plant next year.

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That is a great way to say it Nan. I was not going to eat this one anyway, because the smaller one that I removed two days earlier had very little flavor, and pretty bland. Chances are this one is a spitter too. What a perfect fruit to save seed from!
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Old July 8, 2017   #77
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First flush of fruit from one DLH plant- DTM = 92 days. Average weight is a little over one pound. Taste results coming soon- the first two fruit from the bottom of the plant had mixed reviews on flavor- the first smaller fruit was mealy and had no flavor, the second 2 lb. fruit that I posted about previously was delicious, and was shared with a large group at lunch.
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they look beautiful. nice consistent shape too.
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Old July 8, 2017   #79
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Freaking Awesome!
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Thanks KarenO and Marsha! BTW, are you growing a few of these in your fall rotation?
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I have two growing. got a later start than some of my others but about 3 feet tall, strong and starting to bloom.
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I have two growing. got a later start than some of my others but about 3 feet tall, strong and starting to bloom.
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Excellent. One observation I have- DLH flowers are really small! Yet they produce really big fruit! I was beginning to wonder if I had the right variety early on. Pink Brandywines, for instance, usually have huge single and megablooms and these produce 1-1.5 lbs fruit. Let me know if you see the same thing..
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Thanks KarenO and Marsha! BTW, are you growing a few of these in your fall rotation?
I think so. I haven't made my final list. Should I use your or Dutch's seeds?
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I think so. I haven't made my final list. Should I use your or Dutch's seeds?
You can use either! I did have the one PL variant from his seed, which died due to TMV. It could have been a seed mix up on my part due to Terhune being next to it in the tray. But all of the other seeds from Dutch have grown true. The only thing I can add is that the germination rate for me was 6/16, and for others it has been lower than is typical. So you may want to sow quite a few just in case

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Excellent. One observation I have- DLH flowers are really small! Yet they produce really big fruit! I was beginning to wonder if I had the right variety early on. Pink Brandywines, for instance, usually have huge single and megablooms and these produce 1-1.5 lbs fruit. Let me know if you see the same thing..
The blossoms on my DLH are about 3/4" wide when fully open. Not small...

It's possible there are variations due to growing conditions, but I can't think why my blossoms would be bigger. We had a month of rain after plant-out and now the plant is fighting off Septoria (better than others, I might add). The blossoms don't look dainty, but kind of rough. Unless they're all megablooms from the rain?

Oh, I really don't want it to be the wrong variety! Well, as a famous Book says, "Ye shall know them by their fruits."

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The blossoms on my DLH are about 3/4" wide when fully open. Not small...

It's possible there are variations due to growing conditions, but I can't think why my blossoms would be bigger. We had a month of rain after plant-out and now the plant is fighting off Septoria (better than others, I might add). The blossoms don't look dainty, but kind of rough. Unless they're all megablooms from the rain?

Oh, I really don't want it to be the wrong variety! Well, as a famous Book says, "Ye shall know them by their fruits."

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Hey Nan- no, I don't think you have the wrong variety LOL. I don't mean that they are micro-dwarf size or anything, but they are smaller than Terhune, Olive Hill, and some others I had growing around them. It could be the sheer number of blooms- or perhaps the sepals seem shorter than others? I don't know, but it's just amazing that a small flower could grow a behemoth like the ones I'm seeing

Oh, and I don't recall any megablooms on any of my three plants. I did have a few doubles, but nothing more than that. The shape has been very consistent, with no catfacing.

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You can use either! I did have the one PL variant from his seed, which died due to TMV. It could have been a seed mix up on my part due to Terhune being next to it in the tray. But all of the other seeds from Dutch have grown true. The only thing I can add is that the germination rate for me was 6/16, and for others it has been lower than is typical. So you may want to sow quite a few just in case
Good to know. I will.
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Consistent shape and good bottoms, no beef steak butt going on there!!! Yeah!
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Consistent shape and good bottoms, no beef steak butt going on there!!! Yeah!
Imp- if you set the fruit down on the blossom end, and it sits flat, it's not a heart. It should roll over onto its side like a weeble.

Highly scientific procedure, dealing with such esoteric things as gravity, center of mass, gravity waves, etc.
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Imp- if you set the fruit down on the blossom end, and it sits flat, it's not a heart. It should roll over onto its side like a weeble.

Highly scientific procedure, dealing with such esoteric things as gravity, center of mass, gravity waves, etc.
LOL, not to forget moon phase with the tidal pull, either.

Those are so looking good!
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