Tomatoville® Gardening Forums


Notices

Forum area for discussing hybridizing tomatoes in technical terms and information pertinent to trait/variety specific long-term (1+ years) growout projects.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old December 12, 2012   #1
bwaynef
Tomatovillian™
 
bwaynef's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Clemson SC
Posts: 143
Default Is a three-way cross the same thing as...

a double-cross? How exactly would you do something like that?

I have a vague understanding of crossing 2 varieties, but can't make sense of how you'd do that w/ 3 varieties.

Any help?
bwaynef is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 12, 2012   #2
Darren Abbey
Tomatovillian™
 
Darren Abbey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 586
Default

[A] x [B] => [F1]
[F1] x [C] => [F2']

We can examine one locus to get a more specific idea of what will happen.
[A] = AA
[B] = aa
[F1] = Aa

if ([C] = AA), [F2'] = 50% AA, 50% Aa.
if ([C] = Aa), [F2'] = 25% AA, 50% Aa, 25% aa.
if ([C] = aa), [F2'] = 50% Aa, 50% aa.

You can use this sort of cross to bias the final ([F2']) population towards specific allelic combinations. Perhaps a double recessive ('aa') results in a negative phenotype, while 'Aa' and 'AA' are positive phenotypes that you want in the final population. Using this type of cross, you can intentionally avoid any specific homozygous trait while still maintaining the heterozygous trait.

Last edited by Darren Abbey; December 12, 2012 at 03:55 PM.
Darren Abbey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 12, 2012   #3
Fusion_power
Tomatovillian™
 
Fusion_power's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Alabama
Posts: 2,250
Default

Quote:
Using this type of cross, you can intentionally avoid any specific homozygous trait while still maintaining the heterozygous trait.
This requires carefully selecting the parents. Using the above example,

((A X B) X C) would not necessarily give the same results as (A X (B X C)) In other words, you have to know which homozygous combination you want to avoid.

DarJones
Fusion_power is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 12, 2012   #4
Darren Abbey
Tomatovillian™
 
Darren Abbey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 586
Default

Precisely. I can most readily imagine this being done by commercial growers who already have a set of inbred strains and a solid understanding of what alleles are found in each.

Another scenario where it might be useful is if your strain [C] is homozygous for an alternate allele (A') at the gene not found in either strains [A] or [B], then the final progeny would be a mix of AA' and aA'. These would be combinations you could not get if you had simply grown out a F2 population from the original cross.
Darren Abbey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 12, 2012   #5
WillysWoodPile
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Good posts Darren and Darrel.
For a list of genes go to TGRC.
  Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:26 PM.


★ Tomatoville® is a registered trademark of Commerce Holdings, LLC ★ All Content ©2022 Commerce Holdings, LLC ★