Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.
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July 20, 2017 | #16 | |
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The Ghost of BER Present , and the Ghost of BER future ..... God bless us everyone .....
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July 20, 2017 | #17 | |
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and that is what I am pursuing this year to the tune of 7 gallon size ..with some extra care ... I don't mind the first one / two with BER ...and you "cull " the fruit early ... and the rest of the season fruit is fine ...scenario ..... But I would just not rather have the odd BER show up in the first place as well .. Perhaps if I looked in a search for " Blemish free" "no cracking " there would be a correlation to " NO BER " as well .
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July 20, 2017 | #18 | |
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first fruit (early ) was BER then rest good ...good production etc.
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July 20, 2017 | #19 | |
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You've been lucky. I have pulled three greenies with BER off my husband's Orange Minsk Heart plant. It was one of my extra plants that he adopted and put into a 7 gallon grow bag, and watering has not been as regular as for the plants in my beds which are on drip tied to our irrigation controller. However, it has been subjected to the exact same watering and fertilizing schedule as his other six grow bag and bucket plants, and it is the only one with BER at this point. |
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July 21, 2017 | #20 |
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Most of the toms I have grown did not get any BER, but during very cool /damp weather, it happened ... Mostly hearts, and oval / banana shapes.
Cherry toms and most slicers, none. I just picked a huge monster sized Tarasenko last week, it had been hanging on the vine almost for two months and no blushing. Since it showed some beginning signs of BER, I picked it, and finally, chopped and sauteed it green along with other veggies (delicious!) |
July 21, 2017 | #21 | |
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I guess if one doesn't want any BER at all then one does filter out the varieties to grow ...but it means less variety.
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July 21, 2017 | #22 | |
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Cherry tomatoes are indeed almost immune (not so with grapes). It's hard to say for others, I had varieties which never had it, but that doesn't mean they never will. I heard people say hearts are much more resistant than beefsteaks. |
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July 21, 2017 | #23 |
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Rose de Ber
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July 21, 2017 | #24 |
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Hey Ricky, maybe they could improve the variety and make it "Rose de BERNO"
I only had BER one summer iirc and there was a little on several different plants in the same end of the greenhouse, including Stupice which has never given any such problem normally, and a small orange fruited Zolotoy Zapas. And the worst affected , 5 or six fruits, was Petrusha Ogorodnik, which is a semi-determinate pink heart iirc although rather more plummy shaped than oxheart. It was in a 5 gallon container and did not like the accomodations one bit. I believe the ones in the ground at my mother's did not have the BER. It is interesting that hearts are resistant to BER while plums/pastes which are similar shaped seem to be the most commonly affected? |
July 21, 2017 | #25 |
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Never had BER on NAR or ISRL. Always had BER on Green Zebra so I gave that one up. And Orange Caprese was terrible for me last year. In general I have trouble with the plum type varieties and BER.
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July 21, 2017 | #26 |
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Oops, I guess I misremembered my experience with the Italian heart tomatoes. Some did have BER, per my photos from last year. But that was mostly at the end of the growing season when the weather was much too cold. I got catfacing and BER on the late ones but did manage to get a lot that were at least good enough flavor to make sauce with. My mother liked these greatly. The people I got these seeds from received them from a relative in Italy, and these hearts were all they grew.
(dead Photobucket link deleted) I didn't grow these again this year because I misplaced my seed collection and just found it yesterday. :/ I substituted a Wetzel red oxheart with green shoulders this year because I got a late start and by them that's the only oxheart seed I could buy locally. Last edited by MadCow333; July 21, 2017 at 02:15 PM. |
July 21, 2017 | #27 |
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So an even keel environment .......
even temp. even nutes but not OVER fertilization (Nitrogen quotient ) etc. This year Local climate we went from real crappy cold late spring to a record hot spell record sun etc. a real swing of environmental factors ... The ones that develop BER seem to be the ones that really put out fruit setting early and are also loaded ... once the temps even out and the plant has grown enough to "catch up" with the fruit set demand ...the BER abates ? but also the factors of "elongated " and oval fruit being more susceptible to BER than the ones closer to "sphere" or oblate ? Is it that some hearts grow like plum ...then fill out more to heart shape ? Perhaps I should start a " clean fruit guaranteed " list ... no BER , No Blemish , No Catfacing , No splitting , No cracking ...etc. etc. ? I still think Matina / Tamina ...would hit that list for me ...
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July 21, 2017 | #28 | |
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In my house, except in December, when we might say the whole thing, we just say ...." A bit a puh-tay-tuh!". Last edited by Shrinkrap; July 21, 2017 at 02:50 PM. |
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July 21, 2017 | #29 |
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Round cherries almost never get ber, but I have had it happen. Oblong-shaped cherries are much worse about ber. Last year, I lost all of my oblong cherries to ber, except for Maglia Rosa, which did not get it at all.
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July 22, 2017 | #30 | ||
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And my other AR plant has one as well, but that one is much larger, so I'm debating leaving it on and hoping the BER stays dry. Granted, the 2 plants are producing magnificent, large, perfect, unblemished hearts in more than satisfactory quantities (still green, though, *impatient sigh*), so it's not that huge a loss, and it really looks like it's only 1 fruit on each plant. |
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