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Old April 18, 2017   #1
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Default Sources of wild tomato seeds in EU

As most of the tomato genetic diversity still lies in so called "wild tomato" species, I would like to extend my collection to all 13 existing tomato species. The species Solanum Lycopersicum and Solanum Pimpinellifolium are relatively easily available but it seems much more challengening to gain seeds of another tomato species from other sources than national genebanks which I would like to avoid because receiving seeds from them is conditioned by signing an agreement which restricts the future use of the genetic material.

If you know of any non-genebank source of the wild tomato seeds, please put the link into the comments. As I live and garden in the Czech Republic I prefer the seed sources inside the European Union.

Thanks for your tips:-)


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Old April 18, 2017   #2
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Here's a German company that has some: https://www.magicgardenseeds.com/Tom...-Seeds-T.181-/ I haven't ordered from them, and can't vouch for them.

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Old April 19, 2017   #3
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Thanks, Steve, for the link. It seems they only offer the Solanum Pimpinellifolium which is quite easily available from other sources. I am more interested in other wild tomato species like Solanum Habrochaites, Solanum Pennellii (http://www.nature.com/ng/journal/v46...l/ng.3046.html), Solanum Peruvianum, Solanum cheesmaniae, Solanum Neorickii and all the species characterized for example in the study: Morphological Characterization and Relationships of Wild Tomatoes: https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/d9a...acc2967621.pdf
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Old April 19, 2017   #4
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You don't like to purchase from sources outside the EU, but just in case, do check out Trade Winds Fruit..
Theirs is the largest assortment of Solanum species I've seen on-line. Of course not all Solanums are tomatoes, but you will be able to check and see what's there.
http://www.tradewindsfruit.com/searc...olanum&Search=

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Old April 19, 2017   #5
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Thanks, NarnianGarden, for the link.

I went through all their tomatoes and apart from Solanum Pimpinellifolium they have:

1) Solanum Cheesmaniae which is possibly crossed with common tomato.
2) Solanum lycopersicon humboldtii which is subspecies of common tomato not a separate species.

I will try to order the seeds and I wonder if they will send it to Czech Republic.
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I know you prefer sources in Europe,but there are at least two persons I know of who are here at Tville who work with landraces who might have something that interests you.

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Isn´t one of them Joseph Lofthouse? I think he doesn´t send his seeds to EU, does he?
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Isn´t one of them Joseph Lofthouse? I think he doesn´t send his seeds to EU, does he?
Yes,Joseph is just one for I thought of several more.

You said you needed to add them to your collection, but never said why, and that's important in terms of others I might suggest to you.

Do you intend to breed tomatoes and want some of the species since some of them have the genes for tolerance to some diseases?

I have grown several of thes pecies, Cheesmanii, both major and minor variants are two,along with the pimps,as many do, but never saved seeds from any of those.

Sending seeds to you from the US?I don't see the problem since I send seeds to many in Europe,one has to use what's called a Global Forever stamp.The only countries where problems can appear are getting seeds into the Netherlands,since there are many commercial tomato breeding companies there,and also to Australia,since they are trying to control what's called the Potato Tuber Spindle Viroid,which also affects the tomatoes.

Unfortunately I recently read that that viroid has appeared in Canada and the US as well

https://www.google.com/search?q=pota...&bih=788&dpr=1

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Do not send.
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http://www.rareplants.de/shop/default.asp?
^These have a few (hirsutum, peruvianum and pimpinellifolium) i have ordered from them myself a couple of times. They will ship to the Czech Republic.
They also have lots of other rare, interesting seeds.

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http://www.rareplants.de/shop/default.asp?
^These have a few (hirsutum, peruvianum and pimpinellifolium) i have ordered from them myself a couple of times. They will ship to the Czech Republic.
They also have lots of other rare, interesting seeds.
Thank you so much for the link! I ordered Lycopersicon hirsutum from them. But Lycopersicon Peruvianum is out of stock
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Tania, I think of you. Good luck!
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Tania, I think of you. Good luck!
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Vladimir, I do think you meant you wanted to thank Tania in her thead,but it ended up here.

As for me and sourcing specific seeds I think others of you have a better chance of doing so,so I'm out.

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Thanks for the warning. I've already fixed it.
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Yes, very nice, with plenty of pictures. Your pimpinellifolium crops were impressive.

I have tried two currant tomato varieties -red and yellow - and did not find the taste anything special, so I wonder what the issue was.. (other varieties tasted good under same conditions)
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