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Old October 2, 2011   #61
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What does OTV "off the vine" mean?

As in "Brandywine OTV" or Rutgers OTV ?

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Old October 2, 2011   #62
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OTV = Off The Vine; a newsletter that Craig LeHoullier and Carolyn Male once published.
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Old October 2, 2011   #63
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OTV = Off The Vine; a newsletter that Craig LeHoullier and Carolyn Male once published.
And we called the variety OTV Brandywine for the following reason.

Craig had sent out seeds of Yellow Brandywine and got back seeds of a great looking red beesteak, PL, and a picture with it.

Since I had much more room tha ne did I offered to dehybridize those crossed seeds and had to go out to the F5, aka 5 years, before it was genetically stable.

I know lots of different versions of Rutgers but not one called Rutgers OTV.
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Old October 2, 2011   #64
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I may be mis-remembering the Rutgers OTV, I thought I seen it somewhere in a seed catalog, but I don't remember where.

I understand now, OTV Brandywine is a named variety.

Thanks.
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Old October 3, 2011   #65
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Tomato and Gardening Glossary and Abbreviations

AGG -- Aunt Gertie's Gold; a yellowish-orange or gold late season beefsteak

ARGG -- Aunt Ruby's German Green; a green-when-ripe beefsteak tomato

bagged -- seed from flowers that were bagged to prevent accidental hybridization by insects

BB -- Bloody Butcher; a productive red saladette regular-leaf tomato

BB -- Brandy Boy; a hybrid of Brandywine developed by Burpee Seed Co

BBH -- Brad's Black Heart; a large oxheart purple tomato; developed by Brad Gates

BCW -- Box Car Willie; a medium red oblate tomato; an off-type exists

beefsteak -- a traditional tomato shape, slightly flattened with large shoulders that produces large slices

BER -- blossom end rot; a calcium deficiency remedied by consistent watering and application of mulch

BFT -- Black from Tula; a medium purple oblate tomato

BP -- Black Prince

Brandywine OTV -- large red beefsteak tomato named after "Off The Vine", a newsletter once published by Craig LeHoullier and Carolyn Male.

BT -- Bacillus thuringiensis; a natural pesticide for caterpillars including hornworms; marketed as Dipel Dust or BT Worm Killer

BTD -- Berkeley Tie Dye; a medium green-when-ripe tomato with red and purple striations; developed by Brad Gates

BW -- typically refers to the large pink Brandywine saved Ben Quisenberry; or one of the many tomato varieties with the "Brandywine" moniker including Red Brandywine, Brandywine (pink, Sudduth's), etc.

BWS -- Brandywine Sudduth's; the "original" pink beefsteak known for excellent flavor and finicky productivity; seeds provided to Ben Quisenberry by Dorris Sudduth Hill; grown since the 1880's

BWPS -- Big White Pink Stripes (sometimes marketed by the acronym alone); large pale peach-colored beefsteak with faint pink blush

Catfaced -- distorted fruit, usually resulting from incomplete pollination of a flower

CC -- Cherokee Chocolate; a dusky purple beefsteak tomato

CG -- Cherokee Green; a green-when-ripe beefsteak regular-leaf tomato

CP -- Cherokee Purple; a purple beefsteak regular-leaf tomato; discovered by craig LeHoullier

CMV -- cucumber mosaic virus

CRM -- concrete reinforcing mesh

CRW -- concrete reinforcing wire

CSA -- community supported agriculture, also known as "subscription farming"

CTV -- Curly Top Virus; also seen as beet leaf curly top virus (BLCTV)

DG -- Dave's Garden®; a garden bulletin board and resource website

Det -- determinate; a tomato variety that produces in one harvest

DTM -- days to maturity; time (with ideal good conditions) from transplant to mature fruit.

DIY EB -- Do-it-yourself Earthbox®. - home-made self-watering plant containers

DWS -- Dancing With Smurfs

Dwarf -- a tomato plant with rough thick rugose-type foliage; a compact tomato variety suitable for container growing; may be determinate or indeterminate in habit

EB's -- Earthboxes®, a commercial self-watering container

EF -- Earl's Faux; a pink potato-leaf beefsteak; discovered by Earl Cadenhead

EPA -- Environmental Protection Agency

EPB -- Eva Purple Ball; a pink saladette tomato

F1 -- a hybrid "cross" between two different tomato varieties; the first generation of a newly made hybrid

F -- Fusarium wilt; a soilborn fungal disease; "F" after a variety name indicates disease tolerance

Florida weave -- a trellising method

GA -- Gregori's Altai; an early pink beefsteak tomato

GDC -- Golden Dwarf Champion; a yellow saladette tomato produced on a compact rugose dwarf tomato plant; from Burpee Seed Co (1899)

GE -- genetically engineered

GG -- Green Giant; a green-when-ripe beefsteak tomato

GH -- greenhouse

GJ -- German Johnson; large pink beefsteak produced on a regular-leaf tomato plant

GMG -- Grub's Mystery Green; a green-when-ripe beefsteak tomato; discovered by David "Grub" Lockwood

GMO -- genetically-modified organism

GRS -- German Red Strawberry; large red oxheart tomato

GW -- GardenWeb® - a garden bulletin board website

GWR -- green-when-ripe tomato

Indet -- indeterminate (produces tomatoes over an extended period)

JBT -- Japanese Black Trifele; dusky black pear-shaped medium tomato; commercial Russian variety

JF -- Jaune Flammée; orange saladette with red interior; French family heirloom which translates to "fiery yellow"

KB -- Kellogg's Breakfast; large orange beefsteak regular-leaf tomato; discovered by Darrell Kellogg

KBX -- potato-leaf variation on Kellogg's Breakfast

KHP -- Kalman's Hungarian Pink; a pink plum regular-leaf tomato;

LC -- Lucky Cross; a reddish-yellow bicolor potato-leaf beefsteak; possible cross of Brandywine and Tigerella stabilized by Craig LeHoullier and Larry Bohs

Lucky X -- Lucky Cross; see above

LL -- Little Lucky; a golden oblate tomato with bright red blush and striking pink internal pink marbling; cousin to Lucky Cross

LGS -- Lime Green Salad; a green-when-ripe saladette tomato produced on a compact rugose dwarf tomato plant; developed by Tom Wagner

LPB -- Large Pink Bulgarian; medium pink regular-leaf beefsteak tomato of Bulgarian origins

LYH -- Lillian's Yellow Heirloom; large yellow potato-leaf beefsteak tomato

MG -- Miracle-Gro ® fertilizer

ML -- Mortgage Lifter; large regular-leaf pink beefsteak; conflicting histories abound about a radiator repairman who crossed 4 large varieties and used the profits of either the fruit or seedlings to pay off his mortgage

MP -- Marianna's Peace; large pink potato-leaf beefsteaf; originally vended for $25/pack by Gary Ibsen of Tomatofest

NAR -- Neves Azorean Red; a large red regular-leaf beefsteak; initially distributed by Carolyn Male, originally from Anthony Neves, founder of Neptune Harvest

NBD -- New Big Dwarf; a medium pink beefsteak tomato produced on a compact rugose dwarf tomato plant; Isbell's Seed Company (1900's)

NCP -- natural cross-pollination

NPK -- Nitrogen: Phosphorus: Potassium; the ratios of the three major nutrients in a fertilizer

NSP -- natural self-pollination

OP -- open-pollinated; a stable variety that will grow "true" if seeds are saved (not an F1 hybrid)

OTV -- "Off The Vine", a newsletter once published by Craig LeHoullier and Carolyn Male.

PL -- potato leaf; a tomato variety with leaves shaped more like those of a potato plant; not regular-leaf

PPP -- Pink Ping Pong, or perhaps, rarely, Pale Perfect Purple

RKN -- root knot nematode; a soilborne pest which attacks the roots of tomato plants

RL -- regular leaf; a tomato variety with traditionally-shaped tomato plant leaves

SAP -- Sub-Arctic Plenty; very early red saladette ideal for containers; developed by Dr. Harris

SESE -- Southern Exposure Seed Exchange

SFG -- Square Foot Gardening; a gardening book and method

SFT -- Silvery Fir Tree; a sharp red saladette tomato from a compact plant with carrot-like feathered foliage; a traditional Russian variety

SHP -- Sand Hill Preservation seeds

SOTW -- Stump Of the World; a large pink potato-leaf beefsteak; saved by Ben Quisenberry

SSE -- Seed Saver's Exchange; a non-profit seed preservation organization

stitching -- a long blossom end scar on the bottom of the fruit

SWC -- self-watering container

TGS(C) -- Tomato Grower's Supply Company ®, a seed and supplies website

TMV -- Tobacco Mosaic Virus

ToMV -- Tomato Mosaic Virus

TmRSV -- Tomato Ring Spot Virus

TSWV -- Tomato Spotted Wilt Virus; a fast-acting difficult-to-control fruit and foliage disease transmitted by thrips

TT -- Totally Tomatoes ®, a seed, supplies, and bulletin board website

TT -- Tomato Tone® OMRI fertilizer by Espoma

TTC -- Texas Tomato Cage

TV -- Tomatoville® - this website

TYLCV -- Tomato Yellow Leaf Curl Virus

TYW -- Tom's Yellow Wonder; pale yellow medium regular-leaf beefsteak; discovered by Tom Micholas as a likely cross of Wonder Light and Pineapple

V -- Verticillium wilt; a soilborne fungal disease; "V" after a variety name indicates disease tolerance

WOW -- Wall O' Water®; a frost-protection device



Internet Abbreviations

AKA -- also known as
ASAP -- as soon as possible
b/c -- because
BTW -- by the way
DH -- Dear Husband
DW -- Dear Wife
FWIW -- for what it's worth
IANAL -- I am not a lawyer (someone discussing legal issues without a formal law school education)
IIRC -- if I recall correctly
IMHO -- in my humble opinion
IMO -- in my opinion
IRL -- in real life
LOL -- laugh(ing) out loud
OTOH -- on the other hand
PITA -- pain in the arse
PNW -- Pacific North West of the United States
PM -- private message
PPM -- part per million - a measurment often seen in soil tests and hydroponic solutions
ROFLMAO -- rolling on the floor, laughing my a** off
SASE -- self-addressed stamped envelope
SASBE -- self-addressed stamped bubble envelope (to prevent seed damage)
SH -- southern hemisphere
SO -- significant other
TYVM -- thank you very much
YMMV -- your mileage may vary (ie. your experience may be different)
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Old January 24, 2012   #66
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Alpine, everyone starts out as a newbie at some point and thre are abbreviations that one learns as one learns more and more about tomato varieties. If you don't understand some of the abbreviations then just ask the person posting what one stands for if you don't see it in the posts above.



So, again, if you see an abbreviation for a variety that you don't know, just ask the person right in that thread what it stands for b'c if you PM the person about it that means that perhaps others who didn't know what it stood for and were too shy, or whatever to ask, won't know either.

Hope that helps.
So Can you please tell me what <G> means?
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Old January 24, 2012   #67
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Old January 24, 2012   #68
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<grin> ..........................
Which I use a lot in e-mails as <G>. but don't use it here or at any message site where there are icons that I think are much more interesting.
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Old January 25, 2012   #69
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Which I use a lot in e-mails as <G>. but don't use it here or at any message site where there are icons that I think are much more interesting.
I actually saw it when I went back to your first posting for this year's 2012 seed
offer . Now I will know what it means.
I want to follow your instructions exactly, because I know it's important
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Old January 25, 2012   #70
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I actually saw it when I went back to your first posting for this year's 2012 seed
offer . Now I will know what it means.
I want to follow your instructions exactly, because I know it's important
Ginger, you saw it on the first page of my seed offer b'c I did that first page in a WORD document and then transferred that to Tville and WORD doesn't have icons as an option.
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Old January 25, 2012   #71
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That's totally understandable. I hope you weren't offended, I respect and admire you sooo much. You are truly remarkable, and very generous.
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Old April 5, 2012   #72
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Abbreviations are a fact of life and save time....but can get way out of hand.
I think clarifying if you are not sure what the term is is the way to go....

I also find it makes you think and explore the site to find out what the definition is....it can be time consuming but a learning experience.'

I am new to this site, not to gardening or tomatos and have learned so much just in the few weeks I have started to use the forum here.

I appreciate the long lists of definitions posted here, I only found them today when reading recent posts...a lot of effort and consideration went in to compile them.
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Old October 27, 2012   #73
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Glad to see you folks are still working on the glossary I suggested several years ago. Lots of good information in these posts. Congratulations and hello, again.

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A new one:

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Just had a couple good laughs, thanks for the thread as I am a newbie, appreciate the info very much!
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