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Old August 9, 2011   #1
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Default Leafy Tomato Sauce!!!???

Has anyone tried this?

Tomato leaves allegedly give the sauce a fresher flavor.

Leafy Tomato Sauce
Adapted from “Cooking by Hand,” by Paul Bertolli (Clarkson Potter, 2003)
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/29/dining/291crex.html

Accused, Yes, but Probably Not a Killer
Harold McGee article on tomato leaf toxicity.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/29/dining/29curi.html

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You betcha I'm gonna try it!!!
If I suddenly disappear from the forum, you'll know why!! LOL


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Please give us the play by play when you go for it.
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As much as I love the taste of a good tomato, I don't care at all for the smell of the plants and would never consider eating one!
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I posted before reading the 2nd article, DDF, are you seriously considering eating tomato leaves???


"Many handbooks of poisonous plants cite the tomato plant for killing livestock and sickening people. According to the California Poison Control System’s “Poisoning and Drug Overdose,” edited by Kent R. Olson (McGraw-Hill, 2006), the tomato toxin is solanine, one of two alkaloids that make greened potatoes toxic. High doses of solanine kill animals and cause nausea, hallucinations and death in humans."

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I posted before reading the 2nd article, DDF, are you seriously considering eating tomato leaves???


"Many handbooks of poisonous plants cite the tomato plant for killing livestock and sickening people. According to the California Poison Control System’s “Poisoning and Drug Overdose,” edited by Kent R. Olson (McGraw-Hill, 2006), the tomato toxin is solanine, one of two alkaloids that make greened potatoes toxic. High doses of solanine kill animals and cause nausea, hallucinations and death in humans."

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The point of the whole article is the fact that much has been said about the toxicity of tomato leaves, but little proven.

It also attempts to clarify that the alkaloid in tomatoes is tomatine, not solaninie. Tomatine levels in green tomatoes are relatively high, and we all know that they can be eaten by most with no trouble.

http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jf00054a017

There is a level of toxicity in many foods......

Carcinogenic aflatoxin in grains such as corn, sorghum, pearl millet, rice, and wheat
Oilseeds such as peanuts, soybeans, sunflower seeds, and cottonseeds, etc.

The toxin ergot in rye and other grains.

Goitrogen toxins in soybeans (and soybean products such as tofu), pine nuts, peanuts, millet, strawberries, pears, peaches, spinach, bamboo shoots, radishes, horseradish, and vegetables in the genus Brassica (bok choy, broccoli, brussels sprouts, cabbage, canola, cauliflower, Chinese cabbage, collard greens, kale, kohlrabi, mustard greens, rutabagas, and turnips.

Carcinogenic hydrazines in shiitake and the white button mushrooms.

Toxic lectins in many seeds, grains and legumes.

Phytates in soybeans, whole wheat and rye.

Toxic psoralens in celery, parsley and parsnips.

Toxic alkaloids in many plant foods.

Trypsin in soybeans.

Phytoestrogens in legumes.

Nitrates in green leafy vegetables.

Etc. etc. etc.

Just sayin'.....

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I posted before reading the 2nd article, DDF, are you seriously considering eating tomato leaves???


"Many handbooks of poisonous plants cite the tomato plant for killing livestock and sickening people. According to the California Poison Control System’s “Poisoning and Drug Overdose,” edited by Kent R. Olson (McGraw-Hill, 2006), the tomato toxin is solanine, one of two alkaloids that make greened potatoes toxic. High doses of solanine kill animals and cause nausea, hallucinations and death in humans."

Please reconsider!
Hallucinations? Sounds like fun. RIPEN FASTER, TOMATOES.
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Has anyone tried this?

Tomato leaves allegedly give the sauce a fresher flavor.

Leafy Tomato Sauce
Adapted from “Cooking by Hand,” by Paul Bertolli (Clarkson Potter, 2003)
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/29/dining/291crex.html

Accused, Yes, but Probably Not a Killer
Harold McGee article on tomato leaf toxicity.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/29/dining/29curi.html

Good article but the word "probably" does not fill me with confidence. Linda
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As the moderator here, I would not encourage anyone to try eating tomato leaves! Why do such a thing when we have such wonderful fruit to eat? <grin> Seriously, don't be the guinea pig to debunk or verify whether or not they are poisonous, k? (icky, icky)
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Y'all just make me want to try it even more! LOL

Now look at this!!!

Tomatine Containing Green Tomato Extracts Inhibit Growth of Human Breast, Colon, Liver, and Stomach Cancer Cells

http://www.ars.usda.gov/research/pub..._NO_115=242884

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I could not help but to research a bit about this, after reading the first article. Seems the same "poisons" are also in green tomatoes. Lord knows I have eaten enough green tomatoes and not died, so I think I must be safe.
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You also may have some tolerances built up for it. My family eats poke weed. I have only ever eaten it twice and thought I was going to DIE!!! both times. It is also listed as a poisonous plant. Also green tomatoes I doubt have the same concentrations as as the leaves.

Anyways, as stated above by others I too would advise against using any parts of a tomato plant except the actual fruit.
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Well ya tried it yet?
Don't tell us you dont have any leaves.

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Don't tell us you dont have any leaves.

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