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Old April 10, 2018   #31
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I have never grown German Queen but I have been growing the pl version of German Johnson for years and rarely do I get any fruit over one pound....
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Old April 11, 2018   #32
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I have never grown German Queen but I have been growing the pl version of German Johnson for years and rarely do I get any fruit over one pound. Of course it gets really hot really early down here and that definitely affects the size of all varieties. I did get some nice big ones off GJ the first year or two I grew it but they quickly died from fusarium wilt. Since then I have been grafting it and haven't gotten as large a fruits. No matter to me as it keeps on making now and the taste of German Johnson is always one of my favs.

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Thanks Bill.
I grew German Queen (impulse store purchase) last year. It was very productive. Good tasting pink tomatoes about the size of my IS PL.

On the tomato size, my record over the years has been 19 oz Ananas Noire. Cherokee Purple also produced a lot over one pound.. Brandy Boy also gives fruits well over one pound. I will do a vs check with BW Suddurh this year.
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Thanks Bill.
I grew German Queen (impulse store purchase) last year. It was very productive. Good tasting pink tomatoes about the size of my IS PL.

On the tomato size, my record over the years has been 19 oz Ananas Noire. Cherokee Purple also produced a lot over one pound.. Brandy Boy also gives fruits well over one pound. I will do a vs check with BW Suddurh this year.
It is not impossible to produce a 2 lb Brandywine Sudduth's down here; but I have only gotten one that large. I do get a lot of one to one and a half pound fruits off several varieties fairly regularly. The list below is of the plants that consistently produce large fruits for me. The ones with two stars after them have occasionally produced fruit over 2 lbs. I don't specifically try to grow giant fruits as they are usually too big for all practical uses other than sauce but once in a while I get a really large fruit. From what I have read on this site to regularly grow those monsters you have to grow only those varieties that have that ability plus treat the plants very differently than normal.

Brandywine Sudduth's**
Brandywine Cowlick's
Stump of the World
KBX**
Red Barn**
Neves Azorean Red**
Couilles de Taureau**
Gary O' Sena
1884
Dester
Donskoi**
Limbaugh's Legacy
Virginia Sweet**
Kentucky Wonder
JD's Special C Tex
Giant Belgium**
Omar's Lebanese**

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Old April 12, 2018   #34
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Thats a good number of varieties with large fruits. I am not also for sports growing but it is nice to have a few big ones to show off.

I will try to tally some of my big tomatoes this year I think they will come from:
Ananas Noire
Branfdy Boy
Brandywine Sud
German Johnson
Hillbilly ?
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I'm growing Brandy Boy, Big Beef, Better Boy, and Big Brandy and repeating that sequence 4 times in one row to eliminate or lessen influences of any differences in soil, water availability, disease or insect pressure. All these varieties are new to me. It won't be real scientific but will plan to report back my impressions of yield, flavor and other things. I,m sure heat and resistance to scalding sun will be a factor. We've already had a few days over 90 degrees but only 85 today cause the wind's comin' again.
Big Beef is gonna knock the pants off the other players in this scenario. Unless...UNLESS you like the watermelon rind flavor of Brandywine. And then it's gonna be Brandy Boy all day long.

Big Beef has that red tomato extra taste. The Brandywine derivatives do not have it.
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Default Pomodoro di Sorrento vs. Pomodoro "Sorrento Selection"

I just planted my seedlings out, and by appearance, the Pomodoro "Sorrento Selection" looks bigger & more vigorous than the Pomodoro di Sorrento.

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Big Beef is gonna knock the pants off the other players in this scenario. Unless...UNLESS you like the watermelon rind flavor of Brandywine. And then it's gonna be Brandy Boy all day long.

Big Beef has that red tomato extra taste. The Brandywine derivatives do not have it.
Big Beef in my garden right now has the largest tomato among 24 varieties
Probably it will be the first ripe one , not counting cherry/grape varieties.
THE Brandy vars are behind. ISPL is right behind BB.
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African Vining
Andes Horn
Altai Orange
Aunt Ginny's Purple
Aunt Ruby's German green NOT (bi-color?)
"Bacon Lettuce and This"
Beaverlodge Slicer
Big Beef F1
BKX x SNFLA F1
"Blue Suede-uth Shoes"
Brandywine Sudduth
Bulgarian Old Sort
Bulgarian Triumph
"Cabin Fever"
Cole
Ditmarsher
Divine Maltese (with several requests for seed, this one gets caged and mulched)
Donskoi
Dotson's Lebanese Heart
Early Cascade
Early Kus Ali
Early Wonder Pink
Efimer
"Elbonian Hip Deep" F3
EM Champion
experimental PL yellow cherry
Fireball
Fishlake Oxheart (pink, as I have still not found the red one)
Fordhook First
Forest Fire
GGWT
Jagodka
Kapidag Red
Kellogg's Breakfast Heart?
Latah
Mat-Su Express
"Miss Scarlet In The Kitchen With The Knife"
(I have a yen for board games. If there is a Japanese vendor selling this, what would the translation be?)
Neves Azorean Red
Oaxacan Jewel NOT/ "Wretched Heart"
Opalka
OLd Brooks
Orange Jazz
Orange Strawberry
Pearly Pink Orange
Pervaya Lyubov
Pink Princess
Prue NOT
PSR-37
Rhode Island Early
Rose de Berne
Rose of Tashkent
"Seek-No-Further Love Apple"
Sgt. Pepper's (Karen's heavy antho)
Shirley S.
Shuntukski Velican
Siletz
SNFLA x BKX F3 PL
SNFLA x BKX F3 RL
SOTW
Stupice Sklenekove
SunGold F1
Sweet Ozark Orange
Toedebusch Pink
Visitation Valley
Yorkbec
Zena's Gift

Also, many, many crosses/variations of Granny's Heart, Aunt Ginny's Purple, Prudence Purple, and "Kardia Karpos".

late starts, not yet planted...

Kootenia
"Perpetual Change"
Pokoritel Sedets/ Subjugator of Hearts
Pozhar

I'll sort out the versus once I start getting tomatoes.

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African Vining
Andes Horn *
Altai Orange *
Aunt Ginny's Purple*
Aunt Ruby's German green NOT (bi-color?)
"Bacon Lettuce and This"
Beaverlodge Slicer
Big Beef F1
BKX x SNFLA F1
"Blue Suede-uth Shoes"
Brandywine Sudduth*
Bulgarian Old Sort*
Bulgarian Triumph*
"Cabin Fever"
Cole
Ditmarsher
Divine Maltese (with several requests for seed, this one gets caged and mulched)
Donskoi*
Dotson's Lebanese Heart, grown as Omar's Lebanese Heart*
Early Cascade
Early Kus Ali
Early Wonder Pink
Efimer
"Elbonian Hip Deep" F3
EM Champion
experimental PL yellow cherry
Fireball*, if it's the one I know,forget it
Fishlake Oxheart (pink, as I have still not found the red one)You won't find a stable red, this one flip flops and has since it was first introduced by Neil in Canada.
Fordhook First
Forest Fire
GGWT
Jagodka
Kapidag Red*
Kellogg's Breakfast Heart? (???????)
Latah*
Mat-Su Express
"Miss Scarlet In The Kitchen With The Knife"
(I have a yen for board games. If there is a Japanese vendor selling this, what would the translation be?)
Neves Azorean Red *
Oaxacan Jewel NOT/ "Wretched Heart"
Opalka*
OLd Brooks*
Orange Jazz
Orange Strawberry*
Pearly Pink Orange
Pervaya Lyubov*
Pink Princess
Prue NOT
PSR-37*
Rhode Island Early
Rose de Berne*
Rose of Tashkent
"Seek-No-Further Love Apple"
Sgt. Pepper's (Karen's heavy antho),have grown, seeds from the originator, lots of antho
Shirley S.
Shuntukski Velican*
Siletz*
SNFLA x BKX F3 PL
SNFLA x BKX F3 RL
SOTW*
Stupice Sklenekove if Stupice,yes * but which one,there are 4?, If Sk, no
SunGold F1*
Sweet Ozark Orange*
Toedebusch Pink
Visitation Valley*
Yorkbec* and there are several other becs, sent to me by Raymont Tratt in Canada and I sent them to Glen Drowns of Sandhill Preservation.
Zena's Gift

Also, many, many crosses/variations of Granny's Heart, Aunt Ginny's Purple, Prudence Purple, and "Kardia Karpos".

late starts, not yet planted...

Kootenia
"Perpetual Change"
Pokoritel Sedets/ Subjugator of Hearts
Pozhar*

I'll sort out the versus once I start getting tomatoes.
I've starred the ones I've grown. No Gary what you do is to figure out your versus ones NOW, NOT after the fact and you know it.

Carolyn,YES,it was Kardia Karpos you sent tome,I asked you the same ? before but you never got back to me on that.Problem solved.
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In the dwarf department, I am comparing Dwarf NOAH’s Stripe vs Dwarf Metallica vs dwarf purple stripe from Dwarf Firebird Sweet line vs one from Beauty King (seeds from Craig). I threw in Fred’s Tie Dye for comparison, though the seeds were started much later.

Then I am growing out the original Coorong Pink (seeds from Tatiana’s) and comparing it to the antho version I got last year and the antho with stripes Craig got.

I am also comparing an F-3 Beauty line that gave me an orange tomato with gold stripes last year (working name Dwarf Orange Sunburst) with 2 sent me by Idahowoman, Dwarf Suz’s Beauty and another F-6 from the Beauty line. So far the 2 from Idahowoman are larger with a more open growth habit.

This is my first year growing Determinates. I am comparing them for production and length of growing season, which I am guessing is not all that different this far north. I also want to compare them to growing dwarfs. The 6 I am growing are Black Seaman, Cyril’s Choice, Danko, Djalo Santa, E M Champion, and Milano Plum.

I have tried to unseat Black Cherry as my husband’s favorite cherry tomato for some time now without success, because it is disease prone for me and the vines get so long and hard to support. My candidates to do that this year are Cinnamon Pear and Rebel Alliance (seeds from Marsha).

My goal this year was to get down to 80 varieties, but I actually only got it down to 103, so there needs to be more eliminations this year. Ultimately, everything is compared to everything else for flavor first and then production. It the plant is still standing and producing at the end of the season, it gets extra points, also.
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BKX vs Black Krim.

Kellogg's Breakfast vs. BKX

Seeds sown for all four March 11.
BKX had 100% germination, Black Krim 66%.
KBX 60%, Kellogg's Breakfast 80%

All fertilized with 1/4 strength fish emulsion and liquid kelp on 3/26.
Hardening off began 4/15. Transplanted 5/14.
Sprayed with epsom salt and aspirin solution 5/15.
Calnit down the tube 6/8, prune and azamax/dawn spray on leaves 6/9.
6/14 fertilized with solution of Dr. Earth's tomato food/Big bloom/Great big tomatoes.

All four plants showing some level of fasciation at the stem today, 6/15.
All have flowered, none have fruited.
BKX is the worst, also showing two fused blossoms.


This is the BKX plant as a whole.


Black Krim is larger, with more blossoms.


I am attempting to prune BKX and Black Krim to two stems.


This is Kellogg's Breakfast:


A close up of the Kellogg's Breakfast fused stem:


Here is KBX today:


And KBX's much more pronounced fused stem. KBX is also smaller than Kellogg's Breakfast.
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Old June 27, 2018   #42
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BKX vs Black Krim

As of 6/25, Black Krim has fruit growing. BKX does not.
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Old June 27, 2018   #43
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Do you have pictures. Planted Pomodero Sorenti not sure which one of yours. Plant has many curling leaves.
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If it's Pomodoro Sorrento Selection, that came from Italy via Romania to me to you. Not supposed to have curling leaves.

Speaking of the Pomodoro Sorrentos, so far my Pomodoro Sorrento Selection has large ridged round tomatoes and my Pomodoro de Sorrento has heart shaped fruit. Puzzling if they're supposed to be similar, but the Selection one could be a fused fruit. I'll try to get pics.
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I bought the seeds in Italy 3 years ago under the name pomodero sorenti. They are 2 feet tall and are not fruit setting yet.
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