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Old October 28, 2018   #1
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Default Some Spanish tomato storage (Ramallet)

BOTANICAL CHARACTERISTICS
tomato Ramallet (Lycopersicum lycopersicum L.) is a variety
local of Mallorca fruit of the work of several generations of farmers,
which causes a great variability of tomatoes. The plant is from
Given growth, the inflorescence is formed by a cluster
branched multiparaceous and is intense yellow. The fruit can be
orange or reddish Depending on the masal selection we find
tomatoes with a more flattened or rounded shape and, in some
Cases have the terminal terminal shape. Normally, it shows between
3 and 4 lóculos inside.
VARIETIES GROUPS
In the common denomination of Tomàtiga de Ramellet we find many
different names, such as creeping, iron, hanging, white, authentic,
... each of them comes from a different type of selection and management,
which makes morphologically and etnoecologically be
different Mallorca has a great variability of Tomàtigues de
Ramellet, since they are the star orchard summer crop.
CULINARY VALUES
This tomato is of great importance due to its long conservation,
fact that makes it possible to use the one-of-a-year course throughout the year
Most typical dishes of the island, bread with oil. Tomato is rubbed into bread and
Then salt and oil are added. In addition, it is used to make sofritos
and stews. The tomato has a slightly acid flavor, so it is not available
custom to eat with salads.
CROP MANAGEMENT: SEEDS, WORK, FERTILIZATION AND CULTURAL OPERATIONS
In the area of ​​the center of Mallorca tradition is the dry land cultivation of
Tomell de Ramellet, so it is important to keep in mind availability
of water on the floor. However, in the area of ​​Tramuntana
It has always been flooded. Precisely in this area, concretely
In the villages of Banyalbufar and Estellencs, this is where they are
indications of the first Tomàtigues de Ramellet, called domatigó, los
which dates back to 1929. However, Tomàtigues are currently grown
of Ramallet in all the family gardens of Mallorca, many of them
which use drip irrigation. There are still some farmers who sow
Great extensions of the same, some of them in cultivation of
dry land
Because it is an open-air culture, it is important to relate the time
Planting with frost and the availability of water on the ground. A
Temperatures below 2ºC the young plant is very damaged.
The period covers from mid-April to mid-May.
Planting it early is better because of the availability of water in the soil, in
change there is more risk of the plant getting freeze. On the contrary, if we plant
Later, the danger of frost does not exist, but the reserves of
Soil waters have declined.
In the case of dry land cultivation, it is important to have a well-prepared soil,
therefore, a month before the plantation, an amount will already be made
of 20 t / ha dung. The planting framework must be sufficient
width, one meter between one plant and another, and 1.8 meters between each line. Thus,
The maximum surface is given so that the plant can explore its search
of water The cultivator is going through the whole process of cultivation
It breaks the surface crust and prevents moisture loss by
Capillarity, while maintaining the maximum volume of water
available Cultivation of rainfed tomatoes has never been sealed, without
However, irrigated land cultivation has always been the case. In
The case of drip irrigation depends on each farmer.
CONSERVATION
For the selection and extraction of the seed we must emphasize the
quality of conservation time. For this reason, since they have been cultivated
These tomatoes have been preserved in confines and, depending on
The area of ​​Mallorca is made in one way or another. However, all
They hang on beams in a well ventilated place. They have recently been
Developed other simpler forms of conservation, they are collected
The tomatoes are a little green and they are left on top of a surface that
allow the passage of air. The optimal storage temperature of
These tomatoes are between 10 and 25 ºC. At two weeks of having them
Extended must be checked and removed from damaged tomatoes.
OBTAINING SEEDS
The long conservation of the tomato de ramallet makes most of
People who cultivate it extract their own seeds, due to that
The fruit lasts from one year to the next, so you can select it
the most beautiful fruits that lasted longer.
However, farmers, who have always made the selection
Of tomatoes for seeds advise to remove seed from tomatoes from
First flower, tomatoes healthy, vigorous and that the tomatoes be it
more similar to the type they have been selecting year after year.
With the Tomellet de Ramellet there has always been a lot of exchange,
both seeds and tomatoes for seed. However, many
People think their cultivate Your cultivar is the best, so it is very important
That the diversity of Tomàtiga de Ramellet be maintained, which
They are part of the cultural heritage of Mallorca. Nothing to do with them
New hybrids that call them Tomàto de Ramallet and they are not
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Thanks for the nice general overview Nico, and yes I still have to get back to you about seeds and you already know that.
Soon I'll have this tax situation off my back, I'm not defining what soon means.

And then I can sit back and get out my crayons and do some coloring in my coloring books,listen to all the great music U tubes I like so much. read all the books that are waiting for me as well.

And even think about which tomato varieties someone will grow for me for next summer.

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What a beautiful picture, Nicolas! Thanks for helping preserve these old varieties!
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Very interesting history Nico and thank you so much for the seeds. the photo of the way they are hung to store is so interesting. I think the damp cold humidity of my rainforest covered island would not allow that here but im not sure of the winter temerature and humidity conditions of your home. the traditional breakfast of rubbing them into a crusty fresh bread sounds delicious and I must try it
I shall grow to share seeds of several more of them again this season.
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Nicolas, thank you for the information. I have some hanging now.

I have a question about Ibiza Blanca. Many of the tomatoes are getting red inside but yellow outside. Is that the way they are supposed to be? Or maybe they are not ripe?

I saved out 8 packets each of the 4 hanging tomatoes I grew this year. They will be offered in the Seeds Available section near the end of January.
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Nicolas, thank you for the information. I have some hanging now.

I have a question about Ibiza Blanca. Many of the tomatoes are getting red inside but yellow outside. Is that the way they are supposed to be? Or maybe they are not ripe?

I saved out 8 packets each of the 4 hanging tomatoes I grew this year. They will be offered in the Seeds Available section near the end of January.
Nan, I knew I'd seen the Ibiza one referred to slightly differently,so I finally found it on a list here that Ilex (Paco) in Spain referred to it.

C – blanco de Ibiza

The C he denotes as being a de colgar type so yes they ripen from the inside out.And did so originally in both Spain and Italy where there are some wonderful pictures of them here hanging from rafters as then ripen up when the temps got colder.It was a great way to have tomatoes when it was too cold out to grow outside and that b/c there were no refrigerators back then..

My problem in searching trying to help you was to use the word Ibiza first, as you had it instead of using Blanco first.

There are many many de colgar versions.

I just checked my data book and one of the best was/is Colgar Papuo PL which I originally got from Paco in Spain and was also listed in one of my seed offers here as well.

And while I am answering your question I think Nico would agree with most of what I posted.

Hope that helps,

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Thanks, Carolyn. I guess my Ibizas need a little more time to ripen.


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Very interesting history Nico and thank you so much for the seeds. the photo of the way they are hung to store is so interesting. I think the damp cold humidity of my rainforest covered island would not allow that here but im not sure of the winter temerature and humidity conditions of your home. the traditional breakfast of rubbing them into a crusty fresh bread sounds delicious and I must try it
I shall grow to share seeds of several more of them again this season.
best wishes!
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Hello Karen and thank you for your comments, we must bear in mind that I live quite far from the Balearic Islands, where I currently live the nights are quite cold, below 0 degrees and nothing to do with the climate of Mallorca, however I hung up some tomatoes abroad to try and lasted more than 10 months, I'm not an expert in hanging tomato, but I can contribute my experiences.
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I meant to store tomatoes outside, where everything was frozen
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Nan, I knew I'd seen the Ibiza one referred to slightly differently,so I finally found it on a list here that Ilex (Paco) in Spain referred to it.

C – blanco de Ibiza

The C he denotes as being a de colgar type so yes they ripen from the inside out.And did so originally in both Spain and Italy where there are some wonderful pictures of them here hanging from rafters as then ripen up when the temps got colder.It was a great way to have tomatoes when it was too cold out to grow outside and that b/c there were no refrigerators back then..

My problem in searching trying to help you was to use the word Ibiza first, as you had it instead of using Blanco first.

There are many many de colgar versions.

I just checked my data book and one of the best was/is Colgar Papuo PL which I originally got from Paco in Spain and was also listed in one of my seed offers here as well.

And while I am answering your question I think Nico would agree with most of what I posted.

Hope that helps,

Carolyn
I totally agree with you Carolyne, for me the tomatoes that lasted the longest were ibiza blanca (10 months), establiment (8months), the papuo planted last year and did not last long (2months), I do not think I will replant them .
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Nicolas, thank you for the information. I have some hanging now.

I have a question about Ibiza Blanca. Many of the tomatoes are getting red inside but yellow outside. Is that the way they are supposed to be? Or maybe they are not ripe?

I saved out 8 packets each of the 4 hanging tomatoes I grew this year. They will be offered in the Seeds Available section near the end of January.
As Carolyne says, everything is correct. I think it will surprise you white ibiza, for me the flaw it has is that it is a plant not very vigorous, with a very thin stem and perhaps unproductive for me.
This year I made a cross of white ibiza and 100 in branch, 100 in branch is a super multiflora plant, super productive and that agunatan their tomatoes also enough time.
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As Carolyne says, everything is correct. I think it will surprise you white ibiza, for me the flaw it has is that it is a plant not very vigorous, with a very thin stem and perhaps unproductive for me.
This year I made a cross of white ibiza and 100 in branch, 100 in branch is a super multiflora plant, super productive and that agunatan their tomatoes also enough time.
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Yes, my White Ibiza was a very weak plant. It produced well, but VERY late. The Ramallet Ibiza Blanca and the Flor de Artana are keeping very well. I have Flor de Artana hanging in my basement, and my mother has them too. Ramallet des Figural was very productive but the tomatoes didn't last long.
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Yes, my White Ibiza was a very weak plant. It produced well, but VERY late. The Ramallet Ibiza Blanca and the Flor de Artana are keeping very well. I have Flor de Artana hanging in my basement, and my mother has them too. Ramallet des Figural was very productive but the tomatoes didn't last long.
Hello, ibiza blanca is the earliest ramallet I know, it is super precocious, I am surprised that you have been very late, des figeral endures little, and flower of artana me hard to my 3 months alone. Who has been your seed source?
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Tomato bombeta is multiflora, very resistant to diseases and perhaps the most productive tomato plant I have ever seen, it hurts that tomatoes are small in size
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