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Old June 20, 2017   #31
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I see no one mentioned Masktoka. It is really good, in fact it is one of the best reds, determinate or not. A sort of mini beefsteak I would say, on somewhat rugose leafed plant, more like a dwarf than a normal plant.

EDIT: looking on google, looks like I don't have the real thing. they should apparently be round, or according to tatiana even oval, not flattened (I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be bigger than a cherry though, I think her seeds were wrong). And no mention of rugose leaf. Hm. I got my seeds from Reinhard Kraft, I was convinced it was the real thing. Unlikely to be crossed, as all seeds gave the same result, and it is determinate.

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Old June 20, 2017   #32
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Being new to tomato gardening I am going to try a few listed. For me I am realizing I would like some shorter plants. My indeterminate are at 5-6 foot and will grow taller than my privacy fence and is more difficult to net for birds. I planted Somerset and Phoenix for heat tolerance and they are only 3-4 ft tall max with good production. The flavor is good if allowed to fully ripen. So include heat tolerance as another category.
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Old June 20, 2017   #33
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I have Somerset and Phoenix because of heat tolerance. They have produced well and taste good if you ensure its fully ripe. having a privacy fence I am figuring out my indeterminate's are growing above the fence.
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sorry for duplicate msg. I thought my first did not post..
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Old June 20, 2017   #35
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One that several here have praised is Altajskij (Altajskiy) Urozajnij. Here's Tatiana's description: http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Altajskij_Urozajnij I'm going to grow it this season, and will let you know how it does.


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I grew A.U. last year (thanks to Bower for sharing seeds) and the taste was excellent, but the Early Annie that I always grow tasted just a little better. Unfortunately, my Early Annie seeds appear to have been crossed, and now throws out larger fruit, and some seedlings with PL's

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Old June 20, 2017   #36
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I am growing MoCross Elgin #9. It is a determinate and is very tasty. It is also very productive. Worth a try for sure.
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Old June 20, 2017   #37
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I cant find Cole seeds, anyone know a distributor?
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Old June 20, 2017   #38
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I cant find Cole seeds, anyone know a distributor?
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Old June 20, 2017   #39
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Yeah, I have some. My step-dad has a high tunnel full of Cole right now. I need to get some more fruit for seed.
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Old June 20, 2017   #40
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Cole was early but sure doesn't win any prizes for best tasting tomato

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Old June 20, 2017   #41
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The thread title is an oxymoron.

That's just the humble opinion of this non-oxy moron.
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Old June 20, 2017   #42
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Of the available options, the best tasting. That's not an impossible question.

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Perhaps I shall have to make one won't I.
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Old June 20, 2017   #43
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Can there be a best of relatively lousy tasting tomatoes?
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Old June 20, 2017   #44
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Lol yes, I think so. But not the ones bred to be early, for the most part I dont think flavour was even the slightest consideration in the mad pursuit of the almighty "early" tomato.
I think adding potato leaf to a determinate will help because I believe that pl foliage is linked to enhanced flavour.
Just a theory but I believe absolutely that determinate and spitter are not synonymous but I don't think attention is paid to flavour by breeders. Always diseases and earlieness, shippability for market seem to supercede flavour as priorities. Exploring old determinate varieties myself, many must be good, from when folks cared about flavour more than how well they artificially ripen. Old garden tomatoes as opposed to market/ mechanized harvest varieties.
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Old June 20, 2017   #45
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I just zipped through Sandhill's A to Z list of tomatoes and was surprised how many i
have tried over the years. (this was back when we had a hard frost in late August and
thought i needed to try speedier ripening tomatoes)...earlies and anything with Northern
sounding names. I'm a bit over that now as others do so well i don't need the Arctic
ones. Polar, etc.

That year i was pulling out entire plants and hanging them all over the barn.

....short lived experiment. U of Idaho and Minnesota had some promising varieties.
Not many made it for me. Sophie's choice, Bison, Manitoba...trying Scotia this year.

I'll be driving through NovaScotia next week and stop at a big veg market. They always
have a few good ones for sale but no listed names. (local farms). Not fond of saving
seeds from those but driving blind landrace style might be the way to go.
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