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I am worried that I have some "bad" potting soil. I think that the plants that I had in it last year was
diseased. So I was wondering if I soaked the soil with bleach water if that would work to sterilize the soil? |
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It should kill everything including good organisms.
Then how would you get the bleach out. I guess with plane water then how would you get good organisms back in. ![]() It looks like you would have sterile soil. ![]() Worth |
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I was thinking to put some mycro and actvionate back into it.
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Might be worth a try, cant hurt.
I have been known to spray Lysol on stem galls after I trim them off. ![]() Worth |
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Need to know what was wrong with the seedlings, I think, before suggesting any possible remedies other than buying new artificial mix for starting seedlings. What have you been using to start seeds? I ask b'c if the potting soil you refer to is not an artificial mix that has no real dirt in it, and your potting soil DOES have real dirt in it, then I can see where they might well be a problem.
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I agree with Carolyn as to what type of disease did your plants have and when in the growth cycle did they contract the disease. That should tell us whether it was soil borne or airborne. Are you growing in containers or in soil? Ami
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Use a mix of 6 to 8 ounces of regular strength bleach added to a gallon of water and soak the soil. The bleach will oxidize fairly quickly and once it dries out enough there should be little or no residue. Make sure to give it a enough time before adding the beneficial bacteria.
I used this last year to treat the spots where I was planting my fall tomatoes in soil infected heavily with fusarium and it increased my success greatly. I have a serious fusarium problem and this has been the most effective thing I have found. I only treat a spot about a foot wide where the plant will be placed. Eventually the fusarium from the surrounding soil will infect the expanding roots but it gives me a the very least a few extra weeks of healthy growth before the plant is affected by fusarium. |
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I WAS DOING A SESRCHBAS HOWBTOB DISINFECT MY TOMSTO PATCH.
then I came across this post. I read comments saying that bleach can Kill good bacteria .. can be harmful to plants .. But then I knew that a bleach solution Can be spray on tomato plants to fight disease.. why not you can spray on the soil prior to plant out... Now I am sure I can do it to disinfect the patch before plant out.
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https://ipm.ucanr.edu/PMG/PESTNOTES/...n%20dry%20soil.
Another is steam soil injection,used for severe cases.
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With the Hot Heated Summers "Us Farmers" are dealing with each year, using Kurt Plastic Ideal will work better to kill bad bacteria without using unnatural solutions.
Kurt, Keep Posting your Articles, Amen!!!
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Well. I trust Bill,s advice. Will do this before planting out my tomatoes and peppers.
to kill all the fngus that m8ght have survived frm last year, just a precationary measure. i remember my tomato fruits used the get 8nfected.canker? well course wll carr6 on spraying the plants wih fngicide. i might opt for solarizng.
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I only did the bleached soil thing a few times when desperate. It is a short term fix and may make things worse in the long run. The best fix for tomatoes is to learn to graft and use a rootstock that is highly resistant to fusarium. I still plant some non-grafted tomatoes and sometimes they do well for a while and other times they die very young. I have tried everything to ease my fusarium problem and it has improved a bit. The more organic matter in the soil the better. Areas where the soil is more sandy are the worst.
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Hey Bill, nice to see you posting.
I was away from TVille for awhile and just recently came back. |
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Two years ago I moved and started a new garden. Unfortunately my beds were all infected with verticillium wilt. I gardened the beds for two years and it just spread. I was desparate. I treated my beds with a very very strong bleach treatment. I waited a week and did it again. Two months later I added my soil ammendments along with innoculating bacteria and fungi. I had no problems with disease last year. I debated about treating them again this past fall but I decided to leave them and see how it goes.
BTW - The worms and sow bugs were unharmed with this treatment.
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I am sorry about your Verticillium Wilt. Verticillium Wilt is a fungal disease that affects a wide range of plants. It is hard to believe there is no cure for Verticillium Wilt. But you proved them wrong. Some Natives use control burns for a natural way. But you will need all your family members to help. Let us know what you are planting this years, and keep us up-to-date, Amen!! Have a good growing season. Farmer, Joyce
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