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Old May 28, 2014   #1
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I tried this when I first joined TV but I didn't have any luck so I want to try it again.

I call this tomato "big Mystery" because I don 't know what it is. The story goes: an old man brought a big tomato as a present to a lady he was sweet on who worked with a friend of mine in a garden center about 12 years ago. He had apparently grown this variety here in the Edmonton area for many years and was his pride. my friend thinks he might have called it "Chicago" He is nowhere to be found anymore.
The lady shared the tomato with the staff at lunch, my friend saved some seeds and gave them to me to ferment. I have grown it often since, saved seed (and it always comes perfectly true), and I would love to know what it is.
There is no record of an OP tomato known as "Chicago" any place I can find.
It is a very large RL early midseason plant. about 70 days . produces lots of Large mild sweet ribbed pink globe shaped tomatoes. around 16 oz each easily. always round, never flattened and always ribbed with very delicate thin skin. few seeds, very meaty.
I have seen a million tomato pictures but nothing seems to quite match up. I thought I would seek some ideas here. I realize it won't be definitive and it is possible that this is an unknown tomato but I would like some ideas of what you all think it could be.
Otherwise it will remain my "Big Mystery"
Thanks. KarenO
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Old May 28, 2014   #2
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nice looking tomato
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Old May 28, 2014   #3
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No clue what variety might be, but they are beautiful tomatoes!
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Old May 28, 2014   #4
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Karen,
Good looking tomato. Looks an awful lot like a Brandywine Suddath's. The regular leaf description and the DTM don't match though. A relative perhaps?
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NICE!

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Old May 29, 2014   #6
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I hope Tania and Carolyn might have some ideas, they have gone through so many more varieties than most of us. I personally have never grown a large pink with such a regular round upright shape along with uniform fluting on all the tomatoes. My pinks of that size have been flattened oblates. Sounds like a great tomato, and sure is a pretty one, and my ears perked up when I read early midseason!
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Old May 29, 2014   #7
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Those look great! I hope you'll off these up for trade at some point! I love reading/hearing about tomato stories!
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Very often a person will just name a variety for him or herself, a family member, winning a contest with it at a local fair, named after the church and on and on. That church one is called Jean's Prize, and I've offered seeds for it in my seed offers here and was so named b'c Jean won so many prizes with it at the church harvest fair.

Maybe this man was originally from Chicago. No way to know, and in many cases more info can be unearthed, as it were, but in this case I don't see that happening.

Let me give you just one recent example.

A Tville member contacted me about a new variety she came across that was just called George's Seeds, or George's, she got more info about it and it turned out that George was the person who brought the seeds from Italy to the US.

So we talked about it quite a bit, via PM and the final name decided on was George's Giant Italian Red and it's being grown out by one of my seed producer folks who gardens in the midwest and if all goes well I'll be offering it in my next seed offer here. And thanks to Tam here at Tville for that one.

I can't tell you how many new ones I've ended up naming, hopefully with a family member, but if not, just having to go on its characteristics.

Neves Azorean Red is another example. I was given seeds for it by a local person who got them from a cousin near Boston, and doing some background sleuthing it turned out that the seeds were originally given to the man who owned Neptunes Harvest by Anthony Neves who had come from the Azores to the US and was trading fruits with the owner for some of the Neptune fish and seaweed products,

Instead of naming it myself I decided to let others know how difficult it can be to name a variety. So I started a thread at GW back in 2003 or so and gave all the background info I had and let them make suggestions. There were 22 folks who responded and the final name we decided on was Neves Azorean Red.

And I sent seeds to all 22 who participated in that thread.

http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/w...es_Azorean_Red

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The lady he brought the tomato to...her name is Zena. If I can't identify it maybe it should be called Zena's gift. Goes with the story anyway. Thanks Carolyn
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Nice tomato to go with a very nice story. Most guys give their lady flowers, or jewels, or such other... At TVille, we give the one we fancy the gift of a beautiful tomato.
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Nice tomato to go with a very nice story. Most guys give their lady flowers, or jewels, or such other... At TVille, we give the one we fancy the gift of a beautiful tomato.
So true.

And Karen, trust me,you aren't going to be able to ID it with a known variety so maybe Zena's Gift would be perfect.

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The "early" part attracted me as well. I'd love to trade for some for 2015! I like Zena's Gift as a name, too.
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Beautiful tomato. I love the ribbing and the colors. I'd also love to trade for a few seeds, and the Zena's Gift is such an appropriate name. Thanks for sharing the Big Mystery.
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You've got me at early(mid), meaty and few seeds. I'd be interested in trading in 2015. (Whatever the final name).

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I can't resist a ribbed tomato! Aren't they the most beautiful? Intriguing that this one is round rather than flattened. I certainly would be interested to try it here in NC. I think your choice of name is lovely.
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