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Old December 19, 2010   #16
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Thanks Carolyn,

I think ordered around 2001 and 2002. Most of what I got seemed to be "as advertised", in coin envelopes. And if they were mixed up, all the better as they have gone into much of my breeding efforts and perhaps they represent the "secrets" of our success.

I remember what drew me into his online website were the homey characterizations of the lines. It was pretty clear which varieties were his favorites and which ones were receiving the gosh darnoodleyation of "faint praise".

LOL -- I love the built in translator the changed what I said into gosh darnoodleyation!
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Old December 19, 2010   #17
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Bare with me” while I undress/address an invitation to respond to Fred's comments. I can be painfully slow sometimes keeping up with my acquaintances. Bearing witness to my bareness in communication skills should perhaps be kept private as in a private message, but here's my "Lend me an Hear." All puns fully intended to be upended.

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I don't know if you remember me, but we met for lunch around 2002 or 2003. We talked some about tomatoes, particularly ones that might be cool tolerant (my main interest then).
Yes, Fred, I remember we met at a local restaurant, probably near Folsom, CA. I was in the middle of my student teaching and didn’t have much ready capital and I think I traded you some seeds if you picked up the tab. I do not recall what I may have given you but interesting that you were interested in cool tolerant lines, namely because I moved to the PNW soon thereafter. I have many more cool tolerant lines now.

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You convinced me that breeding tomatoes was a stupid way to make money, but I didn't listen and I quit a good job to become a stressed out tomato farmer trying to breed tomatoes late at night after working 14 hours hoeing weeds, picking produce and driving produce around to customers.
Sorry! Breeding tomatoes is still a stupid way to make money, but it is obvious you didn’t listen and became a stressed out tomato farmer, albeit a tomato breeder on the side.


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Unfortunately, your excitement about breeding and your heirloom (wink wink) tomatoes convinced me to ignore fiscal responsibility.
I always get excited sharing ideas about plant breeding and the (wink-wink) in my eyes are a by-product of my delirium. My fiscal responsibility is nil when it comes to breeding heirloom type tomatoes and potatoes and my limited outside income by the tens of thousands of dollars have been squandered on breeding projects. I usually have to beg plots of ground to grow my projects even today due to the lack of money.

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Just wanted to say thanks for the inspiration. Oh... nice video. Now I need to try your potatoes, even though they are banned from our farm. Maybe a little plot by the house.
You are thanking me the inspiration? It is a wonder I don’t get eternal gosh darnoodlenation (sic) instead! I may put together some more video links on my belated website….maybe along with background music to “Momma’s, Don’t Let Your Babies Grow Up To Be Plant Breeders!
Fred, I realized that I lost track of you since that day 7 or 8 years ago. Your site…. http://baianicchia.blogspot.com brought me up to date on your breeding projects a bit. I do hope you include potatoes next year.


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Old December 23, 2010   #18
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Tom, I will not be including potatoes. Because, they would have to rotate into the same plots as the tomatoes. I am frankly surprised that I have become so fond of growing peppers, as they also reduce the number of tomatoes I can grow.

Are you potatoes available anywhere? I do think I'd like to grow a few for fun and for eating at my house.
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http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4033/...9d40d015_b.jpg

Fred, is this your place near Sunol?

I remember driving from Pleasanton to Fremont on my way to visit my daughter when she lived in Fremont, and the picture looks like the hills just south of Pleasanton. Looks like you would have enough room to grow potatoes.

As far as potatoes to be made available, I am still waiting for my friend to get the site together so I can type stuff on it.
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Hi Tom,

Those are the hills south of Pleasanton, and that is our farm. That is last year, and the tomatoes are small and unhappy in the spring cold.

I'll keep an eye out for your potato website, but please also let me know when it is up and running.
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