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August 29, 2014 | #1 |
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A 2014 favorite
It seems like every week I have a new favorite from our breeding program, but now that everything is in, I think this is the winner. The fruit is from a F3 plant of a cross with Everett's Rusty Oxheart. Flavor and fruit quality are excellent and I love the contrasting skin/flesh color.
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August 29, 2014 | #2 |
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Beautiful - a work of art.
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August 29, 2014 | #3 |
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That is beautiful. What is the plant habit like? (Not sure what the F3 cross is.)
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August 29, 2014 | #4 |
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YES, THAT IS A REAL BEAUTY AND JUST WHEN I THOUGHT I DIDN'T NEED ANY MORE TOMATOES.
JON |
August 30, 2014 | #5 |
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Oh, that's gorgeous! What are you going to name it?
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August 30, 2014 | #6 |
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It only has an experimental code for now. I am a few generations away from having a stable line. This is one of 4-5 F3 sister lines I am advancing from this cross. They share a similar skin color/flesh color phenotype, but this particular plant has the neon green flesh with the red dot. The F3 sister lines also vary some in shape, many of which have heart shaped tendencies.
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(It seems like every week I have a new favorite from our breeding program, but now that everything is in, I think this is the winner. The fruit is from a F3 plant of a cross with Everett's Rusty Oxheart. Flavor and fruit quality are excellent and I love the contrasting skin/flesh color.) There was no F3 cross. What Mark did was to cross the Rusty Oxheart one with another parent he didn't disclose, and why should he, thus creating an initial F1 hybrid. Save F2 seeds from the hybrid fruits, put out lots of plants, make some selections, save F3 seeds from each of those selections, etc. So when he says sister lines it means that he made several selections at the F2 and F3 and is following them separately to see what he gets. And so far her likes the one he pictured, and so do I Mark, but as he said, seeds from the one he pictured now need to be grown out more until genetic stability is reached when all seeds planted give rise to the same plants and fruits, and there's no more genetic segregation going on/ Lots of work and lots of space needed to do that, especially when several sister lines are being worked with at the same time. Hope that helps, Carolyn
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August 30, 2014 | #8 |
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thanks Carolyn. I did misinterpret Mark's statement.
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August 30, 2014 | #9 |
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Well said, thanks Carolyn. The other parent in the F1 is a breeding line with a line ID and pedigree that would only be confusing - and not particularly useful here.
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August 30, 2014 | #10 |
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hey Mark. My intention wasn't to flush out information on your crosses, it was meant to be a general question as to the plant habit (compact, sprawling, 4ft, 7ft etc.). Sorry for the confusion.
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August 30, 2014 | #11 |
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Beautiful tomato, love the contrast between the lime green and the red. Looks like a winner for sure!
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August 31, 2014 | #12 |
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The clarity of the photo is amazing--it's almost like I can reach in and grab that tomato and eat it! I actually started to salivate. Cool, cool pic.
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August 31, 2014 | #13 |
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For most of your crosses how many plants do you grow out in your f2 generation to get what you need? I know it would vary depending on how many recessive genes are involved but what is the most common amount?
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