Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.
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August 5, 2018 | #16 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Illinois, zone 6
Posts: 8,407
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Wow, I got my seed from fellow t'villers, and everything was stable for me.
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August 5, 2018 | #17 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: SE PA
Posts: 53
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If I use seed from the same packets next season, will odds be in my favor to get the right thing?
What is Blue Ambrosia supposed to look and taste like? |
August 5, 2018 | #18 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 3,194
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Let J & L know. And I wouldn't use those packs again if I could help it.
Nan |
August 5, 2018 | #19 | |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Illinois, zone 6
Posts: 8,407
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Here is a pic of my Blue Ambrosia. The underside is orange. If you have ever had Juane Flamme, I find the taste about identical, sweet and very juicy. Ambrosia Orange is sweeter, but the fruit are much smaller. |
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August 5, 2018 | #20 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Vancouver Island
Posts: 5,918
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Agree, let them know. They should make it right.
KO |
August 5, 2018 | #21 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Plantation, Florida zone 10
Posts: 9,283
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One year I grew 11 of their seed varieties, direct from them. 7 were off types.
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August 8, 2018 | #22 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: SE PA
Posts: 53
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Thanks to everyone for their responses. I'll contact J&L to let them know.
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August 9, 2018 | #23 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Indiana
Posts: 1,124
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How do the Ambrosia varieties do with splitting? That is always a big issue with our dry-then-wet summers.
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September 8, 2018 | #24 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: SE PA
Posts: 53
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I contacted J&L last week but still haven't heard back. I really want to grow these.
I was fantasizing about crossing the Ambrosias with Brandywine, wondering if I could get a super sweet, complex tasting cherry. Can you even get a cherry from crossing a cherry with a beefsteak? I was also wondering what a beefsteak and currant cross would get you. |
September 8, 2018 | #25 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 3,194
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It's easy to get small fruit. You are more likely to get cherries with the Ambrosia x Brandywine. There will be some bigger, but most small.
Beefsteak x currant is the same. Current is dominant. F1 generation (your original hybrid) will give something bigger than the cherry or currant. F2's you'll have all kinds, big to small, but more to the small side. You can pick out the size & taste you want to pursue. Nan |
September 9, 2018 | #26 | |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: SE PA
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Once you had your F2 Brandywine x Ambrosia (or maybe Sungold) choice(s), you could then cross that with Blush. Am I correct in assuming that F2 would be a good stage to introduce something like Blush as a third variable or would you do that with the F1? Or further down the line? |
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September 9, 2018 | #27 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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Pro's & con's of starting with F1:
Pro: 9 generations total, & it's stable. Con: You might need to grow out a zillion F2's to find what you're looking for, since you just added all the new variables of a third variety. Pro's & con's of starting later: Pro: You have got that first cross to give you what you wanted for a few generations already, got rid of the unwanted stuff from those two parents before introducing a third. Much less confusing and need fewer plants in each generation to find the variables you want from the third parent. Con: Your crossing with a third parent makes the offspring F1's again, so it's eight more generations on top of what you already did. |
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