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Old May 12, 2011   #1
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Default fatalii, have i lost my mind?

ok, i may have made a mistake. i bought 1 fatalii pepper today. i was looking for a habanero so maybe i got the heat i was trolling for but when i read about fatalii on the internet and in seed catalogs i am concerned about the heat - 100,000 to 300,000 typically 250,000 scoville units. i know habs are in that range and a lot hotter so ....

the only hot peppers i have grown is long red slim cayenne which is about 30,000 to 50,000 su. i like the heat of these and they are hot but these are ice cream compared to the su of fatalii!

i'm in nw ct. is there a way to grow this so it is not so hot or do you get what you get? for example growing it in a 5 gallon pail on the asphalt driveway may make it hotter as the plant would be hot vs in the ground in the garden where the soil is cooler so i will grow it in the ground in the garden. if i water it a lot will it reduce the heat? is it possible to like a pepper this hot when the hottest i have eaten is a cayenne? if i eat the flesh and avoid the pith and seeds is the flesh less hot?

oh what have i done?
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I grew it last year and guess what? It was HOT! Try to keep the plant well watered, shaded in the hotest part of the day, don't let it get stressed, and DON'T eat the seeds or membranes. This way it will only be a little hotter than He**.

Actually it was a darn good pepper.

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You've embarked on a journey, that's what.

Most people who find certain peppers too hot just make them into hot sauce, which of course can be doctored with vinegar, sugar, etc., until it is palatable to your particular taste.

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i intend to eat them chopped up in other food like chinese food, spaghetti sauce, soups or added to rice, that's how i use the "long red slim" variety of cayenne peppers but they are not cooked i use them raw. i froze a lot and just chop them up, they are hot but not unpleasantly so. something tells me the fatalii pepper is like eating fire. perhaps it would be wise to cook them to try to reduce the heat when using them? i don't intend to make a hot sauce tho i have a recipe from earl that calls for habs, i'm sure it would last for years in the fridge and start to lose some potency after time.

water it well, that's what i figured would mitigate the heat tho i have no illusions that would make them mild! when i googled this pepper i saw posts online but they were typically from zone 9 people at various websites. i'm in 5a so maybe this will produce a pepper that is not as hot. i'm wondering if i will just end up tossing them if they are beyond edible!

in addition to fatalii i bought 1 scotch bonnet plant, another scorcher! it has a 120 dtm and i question if i can get that up here. i meant to buy 1 or 2 long red slim cayenne plants and got a 6 pack by mistake! i'm hoping to give some away, i don't need 6 plants and it would be a squeeze on available space. i think i went off the deep end re hot stuff this year.
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Fatalii is a great pepper! I find it about as hot as a hot habanero. You can always dry them and grind them into powder. That way you can evenly add as much to a dish as you wish. It's actually one of the mildest hot peppers I'm growing this year. I have about 20 varieties that are much hotter. I'm in zone 4, and my peppers are hot. Depriving a pepper plant of water while it's fruiting will make it slightly hotter, but a hot variety is going to be hot. You can't make it mild by overwatering it, and hot peppers don't like wet feet. Grow it and try it! You might love it!
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I grew it also last year. Indeed very hot but good flavor. If I'm making
anything with ground meat, I'll chop a little up and cook it in.
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thanks for the comments. i guess i'll just treat it like any other pepper plant and see what happens.

i'm surprised that you can grow such heat loving peppers in minn. i suspected that here in ct i was pushing the limits. it's hot and humid here all summer but that's july and august just 61 days.

this should be interesting for sure, i can't help but think i will not be able to eat either the fatalii or scotch bonnet. i'm giving away 3 of the cayenne plants so having 3 for myself is a lot of cayenne peppers. from 1 plant last summer i still have 2 dozen in the freezer and last year was a low production year compared to 2009 the only other year i grew hot peppers. i really like the heat from long red slim and wanted something hotter but i may have been better off looking for a pepper with 75,000 su vs 250,000!
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Let them grow and enjoy the plants.

I am not familiar with the particular variety, but I will give you some advice: be very careful handling them (latex gloves, and wash everything thoroughly after contact - don't touch your eyes for a few days). You compared them to a scotch bonnet, and that should be enough of a warning.

I bought a plastic grocery sack full of scotch bonnets a few years back. They were the prettiest peppers I had ever seen. I cooked them down into a hot sauce, and we literally had to leave the house. My wife threatened me with all kind of unmentionables. After a few years, I had to throw the hot sauce in the garbage because it was too hot to use (and I like my sauce hot).

This year I am growing a number of extremely hot peppers, and I am probably going to make some pepper sauce for my greens and give the rest of them to friends who think they like hot peppers.
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don't use latex gloves. use nitrile gloves. they're not porous like latex.
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Don't laugh just try this, all of you.

2 cups of dutch chocolate ice cream.
1 hab or other really hot pepper in this family.
Finely chop pepper omitting the seeds and mix with the ice cream.
Let sit for a few and enjoy.
I have been making this stuff at work for friends and they love it.
The little bits peppers freeze and as you bite into them the heat comes on then the sweet cream smooths it all out for the next bite.

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Don't laugh just try this, all of you.

2 cups of dutch chocolate ice cream.
1 hab or other really hot pepper in this family.
Finely chop pepper omitting the seeds and mix with the ice cream.
Let sit for a few and enjoy.
I have been making this stuff at work for friends and they love it.
The little bits peppers freeze and as you bite into them the heat comes on then the sweet cream smooths it all out for the next bite.

Worth
gee i was going to use latex gloves, i had no idea they were porous.

now that sounds good worth. i'm going to try this with the frozen cayenne peppers i have right now. who can wait 3 months?

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for those who have grown this pepper did it get tall? i ask cuz i found this -

Fatalii plants grow on average to about 2', but can grow as tall as 4'.

i cage peppers so either i need to use a cheapy 2' tomato cage or 4' crw cage.

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Mine is currently at 3 feet x 3 feet =)
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Mine were short, 2.5 ft, but yield was impressive.

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I cooked them down into a hot sauce, and we literally had to leave the house. My wife threatened me with all kind of unmentionables.
LOL, the same happened to me. I had to open all windows and evacuate the house. My DW wasn't happy at all
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wel, if you think fatalii are hot..taste a naga.... i do it last year and i'm fall in love, this year i've 10 naga 10 trinidad scorpions,10 naga cioccolate, i realy enjoy the idea of the hot cold icecream, i friend of mine have an ice cream shop ..i wil suggest to he this recipe!
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