Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.
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August 14, 2009 | #1 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Shelton, WA
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Ladies and Gentlemen, we have a new champion
I brought in Brandywine Sudduth to work the other day and it got rave reviews with almost everyone calling it the best tomato they've ever tasted.
Yesterday, I brought in Black Seaman and it is the new champion. I have to agree. Black Seaman is without a doubt, way better than BWS which was my previous benchmark. I will be planting 4 of these next year and I'm happy I planted 2 this year. |
August 14, 2009 | #2 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: May 2008
Location: DFW, Texas
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How is its production?
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August 14, 2009 | #3 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: PNW
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My 2 Black Sea Man plants got some kind of wilt early. I suspect
verticillium, as that is around here and there in the beds where they grew. My plants get botrytis, too, but the 2 Black Sea Man plants got this when it was still hot and dry, and none of the fruit were affected, so not likely botrytis (attacks the fruit, too). There were wilted branches draped over other nearby plants which did not show symptoms, so whatever it was, it was not dropping spores from the wilted foliage. There were already a lot of fruit set, so I have just been cutting out wilted foliage every few days. And, surprise, those fruit that have ripened have still been quite tasty, without BER. (I often see BER on verticillium-infected plants, because it inhibits water flow through the plant, and the developing fruit do not get adequate calcium. I had a matina plant with similar symptoms where every fruit that has ripened has had BER.) Some fruits did get some sunscald due to cutting out so much of the foliage above them. So, Black Sea Man is likely not verticillium tolerant, and in fact it seems to be infected by it fairly easily (like Black Prince), but it is still a tough plant for that. It set a lot of fruit, and it did better at ripening them with an active verticillium infection than just about anything else I have grown that has had the same problem. Edit: I will probably grow it again, I just need to find a pristine spot in the garden for it with no verticillium. I can use it as a test plant for verticillium-inhibiting plant extracts, too, in spots that I know do have it in the ground. (Plant the seedling in a V-area, soil drench with the diluted extract, see what happens. If the Black Sea Man plant does not get verticillium wilt, the extract worked.)
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August 14, 2009 | #4 |
Tomatovillian™
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August 14, 2009 | #5 |
Tomatovillian™
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Location: Montana
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Black Sea Man is a variety that seems to perform very differently in other areas...
It is head and shoulders above any black I have grown for production....Taste is good, but not in Cherokee Purple's league, at least in my garden...I often read where it performs poorly and tastes average, but generally a long ways away.... Jeanne |
August 14, 2009 | #6 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Sep 2008
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Cherokee Purple has been mushy and quite bland in my garden. I have never tried any of these varieties before and am going on virgin lips so to speak.
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August 15, 2009 | #7 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Long Island NY
Posts: 152
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is there a commercial seed source?
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August 15, 2009 | #8 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Sep 2008
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Tomatofest and Amazon that I can see. I got mine in trade.
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August 15, 2009 | #9 |
Tomatovillian™
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There should be a few different commercial sources for it.
I got my seeds here: http://www.ghorganics.com/BlackSeamanTomato.htm (PL determinate) Others: http://www.heirloomseeds.com/tomatoes.htm http://www.totallytomato.com/dp.asp?...-86D23A41419C} http://www.seedsavers.org/Details.aspx?itemNo=19(OG) http://www.reimerseeds.com/black-sea-man-tomato.aspx http://www.heritageharvestseed.com/pages/tb1.html Etc.
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August 15, 2009 | #10 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Fairfax, VA Z7
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DoubleJ,
Would you post a picture of the Tomato Black Sea Man sliced and non sliced if you have pictures of it. Thanks, George |
August 15, 2009 | #11 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Shelton, WA
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When I get a chance I sure will
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