Kumato OP?

Greatgardens · December 25, 2022

Looking at tomato seeds on eBay, I see quite a few "Kumato" listings. Of course it's really unlikely that any of these are the "real deal," but someone may have done a decent job of dehybridizing the original tomatoes. (?)

I tried some F2 seed I had saved, and they were not good at all. Well, they were the right color!
Has anyone had better luck? Or has anyone gotten acceptable results from purchased seeds from eBay or elsewhere?

Fred Hempel · December 25, 2022

My guess regarding the Kumato situation:

The hybrid variety was developed to be grown by partner farmers under certain conditions. And I am guessing those conditions include some added salts to the growing solution. So the flavor of the tomatoes in the stores are a product of both environment and genetics.

I bet the folks that might find dehybridizing useful are the bonafide "dry-farm" growers.

But that's just a guess. When I dehybridized Kumato and grew it under my standard field conditions nothing tasted like the store Kumato.

Which is why my Kumato-derived lines were discarded long ago.

ddsack · December 25, 2022

My Kumato F2 saved seeds were started the same time as other tomatoes, but took a very long time setting and ripening for such a small sized tomato. By that time I had all kinds of better tasting large heirlooms, and was no longer interested in what was a good winter store tomato, but to me did not compare to home grown summer OP or heirloom varieties.

kurt · December 25, 2022

http://tomatoville.com/showthread.ph...ghlight=Kumato

Maybe some one in Canada might have them?

December 25, 2022	#1
Greatgardens Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Indiana Posts: 1,124	Kumato OP? Looking at tomato seeds on eBay, I see quite a few "Kumato" listings. Of course it's really unlikely that any of these are the "real deal," but someone may have done a decent job of dehybridizing the original tomatoes. (?) I tried some F2 seed I had saved, and they were not good at all. Well, they were the right color! Has anyone had better luck? Or has anyone gotten acceptable results from purchased seeds from eBay or elsewhere?

December 25, 2022	#2
Fred Hempel Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Sunol, CA Posts: 2,723	My guess regarding the Kumato situation: The hybrid variety was developed to be grown by partner farmers under certain conditions. And I am guessing those conditions include some added salts to the growing solution. So the flavor of the tomatoes in the stores are a product of both environment and genetics. I bet the folks that might find dehybridizing useful are the bonafide "dry-farm" growers. But that's just a guess. When I dehybridized Kumato and grew it under my standard field conditions nothing tasted like the store Kumato. Which is why my Kumato-derived lines were discarded long ago. __________________ Artisan Seeds -- www.growartisan.com

December 25, 2022	#3
ddsack Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Northern Minnesota - zone 3 Posts: 3,220	My Kumato F2 saved seeds were started the same time as other tomatoes, but took a very long time setting and ripening for such a small sized tomato. By that time I had all kinds of better tasting large heirlooms, and was no longer interested in what was a good winter store tomato, but to me did not compare to home grown summer OP or heirloom varieties. __________________ Dee **************

December 25, 2022	#4
kurt Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Homestead,Everglades City Fl. Posts: 2,489	Found some older Canadian source will try to start. http://tomatoville.com/showthread.ph...ghlight=Kumato Maybe some one in Canada might have them? __________________ KURT