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Old August 13, 2011   #1
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I have really good looking healthy sweet pepper plants bell and frying but no peppers. This has happend the last 2 or 3 yrs. I was wondering if root prunning would force them to produce? Any one ever try this? I'am going to try this on a few plants and see what happends as I have nothing to lose. YOPPER
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What are you fertilizing with? Too much Nitrogen can cause that.
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RAY No fertilizer used. YOPPER
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My feeling - all about temps at the root zone. Since switching from ground to pot grown peppers, my yields have skyrocketed.
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Craig, I would have thought you would have pretty decent ground temps in North Carolina without resorting to pots.

Yopper, blossoms or no blossoms?
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Ruth, I know - it is astounding! peppers in my garden - 3-4 on the plant, maybe 5. Peppers in 5 gallon grow bags - 10-12 - 15 on a plant, loaded down. I think it is the early heat that gets things going very well - I am sure there are other factors. But I won't grow another pepper or eggplant in the ground - it makes that much of a difference.
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I have had the same issue the last two years plus disease. The only pepper in my garden that is producing this year is one that is in a pot. I am thinking about making EarthTainers for next years peppers.
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Yopper, when you say "no fertilizer" I wonder what that means. If they are growing big plants, they must be getting nutrients from something. No fruit might mean they aren't getting enough Phosphorous.
What do have them planted in?

I think with peppers, it's all about loose soil and great drainage. That's why they do so well in pots. I planted about a dozen plants along side the south side of the house in a former flower bed with very friable soil. They love it there and some plants are outdoing some I have in containers.
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I am having a similar issue this Season, even in my EarthTainers. Lots of foliage - - but few Peppers:



The mistake I made was to switch from the TomatoTone I used last Season, now to a Foliage-Pro like 19-6-12 CRF fertilizer.

Here were the Peppers last year in the TomatoTone:



Clearly, the Peppers this year are being hit with too much Nitrogen. .....Won't make that mistake again next Season.

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my pepper output sucks to put it mildly!

my plants are small, they have very few peppers and very few flowers. they are in the ground as always. my soil is sandy loam and always has grown good peppers along with anything else i plant. i water regularly and fertilize every 14 days spraying with neptune's harvest.

nothing i have said is different than any other season other than the cooler weather and THE variety. i settled for king arthur from a greenhouse, a variety i never grew before. i often see flower and therefore fruit production sky roacket in later august when the extreme heat of summer fades but since this summer has been a little cooler why the problem? rhetoric question btw. could it have been the 98 and 100+ days 2 weeks ago? i didn't see any flowers drop. the way things are going i may get 12 or 15 peppers from 6 plants for the whole season! btw, at least 4 have rotted and 3 or 4 have bad spots.

i may start to grow my peppers from seeds since i can't get the varieties i have grown and have liked in the past. peppers are one of the 2 things i don't start myself from seed.

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So Craig, are you saying 'hotter/warmer' roots make for better pepper production?
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What RayR said I found to be true. I use to mix compost with my
clay soil and till it in really good with fertilizer. The sweet peppers
never produced much. This year I made 2 new raised bed and
basically followed the square foot garden method without the divisions.
I put down weed block first. Then I added compost, peat moss and
vermiculite (bought in bulk). Added my fertilizer, and that's it.
Best bell pepper production I ever had. Nice and big just like the
stores. Light fluffy well drained mix is what the peppers like.

Yopper, the miraclegrow rose fertilizer is high in phosphorus.
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Ray I put manure on this garden 5 or 6 yrs. ago but nothing lately. The dirt in this garden is black and fluffy like peat and never gets hard. The black dirt asorbes the heat and really gets warm early in the spring .I have seen a few blossoms but they must have fallen off. I have one yellow frying pepper 6" long out of 30 plants. The corn and tomatos and most every thing dose great in this garden. I don't know what this means but onions don't do good in this garden.I have two gardens about 100 yrds apart the other is amended[ for 20 yrs.] clay and they didn't do good there the last two yrs.so I switched gardens. I did put some wood ashes on last spring.THANKS YOPPER
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I've certainly had more success on peppers in pots than in the ground. And generally skipping bells and growing Carmen, Marconi, Red Marconi, and Jimmy Nardello.
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Yopper, I always found peppers to be a little trickier to grow than tomatoes even though they have similar requirements and being in the North with a shorter season makes it even trickier sometimes if things are just not perfect. Sounds like you have great soil texture, but cultivating for years takes its toll on soil nutrients if you aren't adding anything. Corn and onions are heavy feeders, Corn especially needs a good amount of Nitrogen. If your corn is doing great you must somehow still have a good amount of Nitrogen in the soil. Onions like Peppers need a good supply of phosphorus, so I'm guessing that your soil is lacking enough of that nutrient if both are doing poorly. You can see Raybo's results last year with Tomato Tone (3-4-6) which is a well balanced organic fertilizer for fruiting crops vs. his results this year with Foliage-Pro (9-3-6) which is a high Nitrogen fertilizer for foliage production.

Wood ashes is like adding lime to the soil, it has a fair amount of Calcium and other minerals and lowers soil PH, but it has a negligible amount of NPK value.
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