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Old March 31, 2021   #1
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Default Dwarf Johnson's Cherry?

Is there any additional information about this Project release? It appears to produce mostly small cherries, but larger than currant-tomato fruit, and guessing from the plant photo at Victory, between 3-4 ft tall? I did search here, but couldn't find much else about this one, save that it existed and Victory might release it.

https://www.victoryseeds.com/tomato_...ns-cherry.html
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Old March 31, 2021   #2
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I grew Dwarf Johnson’s Cherry. I had pink cherry tomatoes that were about the size of Sungold.
The were good tasting and prolific.
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Old March 31, 2021   #3
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It is a Victory release - part of our Dwarf Tomato Breeding Project. It originated when I crossed Rosella Crimson with Everglades to see if the disease resistance that seems present in Florida local heirloom Everglades can make it into some of our dwarf selections from that cross. Susan (Idahowoman) did the most of the work on it - Mike at Victory really liked it in his trial. It is typical of our Dwarf releases (and dwarf tomatoes in general) in being distinct in appearance (stout central stem, crinkly dark green foliage) and an upward growth rate at about half of indeterminate varieties.
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Thanks to you both. Susan, could you tell if it is prone to splitting?
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Not that I remember. There is a couple of pictures I posted in the Dwarf Project thread.
One is in the Zelly family thread and one in 2019 Dwarf reports
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On a lark, I ordered seeds (well, about 25 packets of veg, herb, and flowers) from Victory this year. Many seed houses were struggling...

There are 4 JC seedlings under lights. Each daughter will get one in a large container, and I will grow one in container, and one in the soil.

Wish me luck remembering to report...

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Great! I'm very interested in what you and others think. Particularly if you think it is sweet. Not Sungold sweet, but the level of sweetness that one normally expects from a cherry tomato. And is it prone to splitting.
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My first JCs are orange, not yet ripe. The older daughter has hers on a patio that gets sun from about 10:30-3:00 right now.

The other daughter lives in a suburb of Minneapolis and reports her first one was "sweet and tart, but mealy, not very juicy".

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I have to concur with my daughter.

Except the "mealy" part...I might have used a different descriptor, but I can't think of the term: some tomatoes have a higher solids content in the fleshy part and especially when bitten or torn display a "pebbly" texture as opposed to a rather "smooth" texture. Like a paste.

Like larger or smaller clusters of cells.

JC displays the larger.

Texture/mouth feel is similar to a paste.

Flavor is sweet, almost hints of gooseberry-like, with a nicely tart tomatoey finish. It is not as sweet as cherries like Isis Candy, but much like the Sw100. That berry-like quality reminds me of Madbury Pink Pot Leaf...a fairly obscure variety.



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Thanks for the info!
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Not as prolific as a big rampant indeterminate cherry, but a little earlier.
It will join Tiny Tim, Red Robin, etc as a doorstep (deck) tomato for salads and snacking. We have eaten pretty much all of the early micros now, so the "dwarf in the bucket" is welcome.

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Thanks for the photos, eyolf.


I've had Dwarf Johnson's Cherry penciled-in for the 2022 season for a while now.
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