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Old November 30, 2014   #1
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Default Burpee's Jersey Boy

Saw today that Burpee is offering "Jersey Boy" a cross of Brandywine & Rutgers. They are calling it a hybrid so who knows if it will be stable in future generations. I'm going to give it a try. If it is as good as Brandy Boy it will be a winner.


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Old December 1, 2014   #2
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I ordered it too. Hope it's good.
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Old December 1, 2014   #3
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Red Rose is an open pollinated, stable cross of Brandywine x Rutgers, sold by Tomato Growers Supply for over a dozen years that I know of. The only reason I could see for buying Burpee's extremely expensive version of this cross would be to collect F2 seeds to spend several years selecting your own version of what you can buy now for less than half the price and a fraction of the effort.
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Old December 1, 2014   #4
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Red Rose is an open pollinated, stable cross of Brandywine x Rutgers, sold by Tomato Growers Supply for over a dozen years that I know of. The only reason I could see for buying Burpee's extremely expensive version of this cross would be to collect F2 seeds to spend several years selecting your own version of what you can buy now for less than half the price and a fraction of the effort.
Thanks Bill ,who saw the same issue elsewhere,let me know about it and he linked to the following, which I still have in my faves and I linked to it at that other site.

http://www.tomatogrowers.com/RED-ROSE/productinfo/5818/

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Going to give Red Rose a try. Love both Rutgers and B.W.
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Tomato Growers Supply has updated their website for 2015 and their "free with $15.00 order " seeds is a packet of Red Rose. Isn't that a coincidence!!!!!

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Tomato Growers Supply has updated their website for 2015 and their "free with $15.00 order " seeds is a packet of Red Rose. Isn't that a coincidence!!!!!

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Too funny
However, I already placed my order for the Jersey Boy, along with Sweet Tangerine and Bucks County Hybrid the other day.
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Too funny
However, I already placed my order for the Jersey Boy, along with Sweet Tangerine and Bucks County Hybrid the other day.
Cecil, you do know that Bucks County Hybrid is Burpee's newest name for their version of Red Brandywine, yes?

I can't remember what name it was first called, but I grew it out, ordered plants and also grew RB from my own seeds and saw no difference at all.

I gave up on Burpee for anything, many years ago, and look at their catalog now, mostly pictures. They bought out Cook's Garden and that catalog now is nothing like it was when Shep Ogden and his wife ran it.

Burpee was once one of the premier companies back in the 40's to maybe 60's, but no more IMO.

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Burpee also sold "Bucks County" as "Little Brandywine" for a short while. I have seed packets for both Bucks County and Little Brandywine, and there was an extensive discussion about this at Tomatoville back some time ago. I think a couple of Brandywine Red aficionados grew and compared the three named varieties and got very similar results.
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Burpee also sold "Bucks County" as "Little Brandywine" for a short while. I have seed packets for both Bucks County and Little Brandywine, and there was an extensive discussion about this at Tomatoville back some time ago. I think a couple of Brandywine Red aficionados grew and compared the three named varieties and got very similar results.
I first saw it listed as Red Brandywine Hybrid many years ago and to be honest I was really upset with that. In my post above yours I was so upset that I ordered those seeds, also plants from Burpee and then my own true OP RB.

And saw no difference at all.

I don't remember a Little Brandywine name associated with Burpee, little in comparison to what?

OK, I decided to do a Google search and sure enough there was a Little Brandywine, here's the link from here I think from 2008.

http://www.tomatoville.com/showthread.php?t=8661

Score one for Travis and Little Brandywine.

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Grew a couple last year along with some of the burpee hybrid marriage series for my mom.
NONE of them had any flavor for me. Was only one trial for what its worth.
Also include brandy boy in this. But it seems like folks here love brandy boy.
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Now, what constitutes a "Good Flavor" ?
That is a subjective definition, unless one offers a description. I might describe a suite tasting tomato as "good tasting". Someone else might refer to tangy or acidic one, or a combination thereof. So there is no way to quantify a "Good tasting " tomato.
To me a good tasting tomato has to be juicy (not mealy) but not with zillions of seeds. I has to be tangy with a hint of sweetness.

ON JERSEY BOY: i have read a lot of good reviews in another site. But I have not grown it myself. If seeds were available off the racks , I would give it a try.

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Not sure about your coast, but some independent garden centers here get plants from growers that do a burpee program. The standards as well as the heirloom marriage series, brandy boy, jersey boy, super sauce or big mamma. My parents sell them for 1.99 in a 1501 tray so the pot is about 3.5" square.
Maybe check around.
They also have a burpee seed rack and it is corporately pre-loaded with variety selection that never has the new cool stuff. My mom tries to explain how dumb that is and the rep is dumbfounded. Go figure. Basically we gathered that they want people to go to the website and therefore keep the new or exclusives online so you'll shop all their stuff.
So, I don't think you'd find it.
Ill Mail u one but you gotta mail me a tomato from it lol
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We planted Jersey Boy last year. It did well for us! It also had a great taste. I can recommend that you try it and see how it performs for you! I would plant it again this year if I had more room. Growing in a GH restricts the number of different varieties I can grow in a year But at least I can grow what fits in the GH!
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Old April 21, 2020   #15
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Jersey Boy has been my favorite tomato two years running. There are many tomatoes I love, but something about Jersey Boy puts it over the top for me. I like it so much that this year I ordered a half-dozen seed packets just in case Burpee drops it. (there are so many varieties, not all can or will continue to be carried).

Outdoor production hasn't been as prolific as Big Beef, but it is more reliable than the heirlooms I grow. The production inside my little 10' X 10" poly greenhouse has been fantastic, and, for me, earlier than Big Beef by 4-5 days. (maturity ratings are the same, however).

I don't believe it is right to assume Jersey Boy and Red Rose are the same just because they came from the same cross. You could cross the same parents ten times and end up with ten different results. Several may be very similar, but there will be range of characteristics expressed. One litter of cats can have several colors.

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