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Old November 25, 2008   #1
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Default The EarthTainer II WaterMizer Edition - - New, Improved...and FREE!

As many of you have followed the saga of the EarthTainer construction on TomatoFest, as well as the "Myth-Busters Trials", I have now field-tested an improved version and it is available on the TomatoFest Website here:

http://www.tomatofest.com/pdfs/Earth...tion-Guide.pdf

The primary improvement has been to incorporate a 5" diameter wicking basket instead of the 9" by 9" large square basket.



This permits 20% more potting mix in the same 31 gallon container for greater plant / root development and parses the water to the tomato plant so that the mix remains in the "Moist" range, reducing water usage and that lost to evaporation (hence the moniker: "WaterMizer") . . . catchy, don't you think?



Anyway, the Price is right - FREE so enjoy and by the way, I have included simple instructions on how to retrofit your existing EarthTainer I to the improved design.



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Old November 25, 2008   #2
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Thanks for all the great information Ray.
I plan to build an EarthTainer for the sole purpose of growing ginger. I've never been able to keep up with ginger's watering needs in the past.


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Old November 26, 2008   #3
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THanks for the new info! I have asked for totes for Christmas. People are thinking I am crazy
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Ray, so you are relying solely on capillary effect for the water to wick up through the landscaping fabric as the wicking basket is covered when you apply the fabric, correct? Ami
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Old November 26, 2008   #5
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Ami,

Yep, hard to believe that this new smaller wicking basket keeps 3.3 cubic feet of potting mix quite moist. I never would have believed it - - but here is proof positive of a Purple Haze planted in early August, and is now doing well into November in its EarthTainer II design:



The wicking action permeates through the landscape fabric just fine, and my goal is to contain the root system from growing down into the water reservoir.

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Old November 26, 2008   #6
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A beautiful work, and parts cost $41 for tall toms, which is quite a savings over the EarthBox, $87.90* -- plus shipping!! * EarthBox base is $54.95 and $32.95 for the tomato staking system, and that's only 61" tall, a full 15" shorter than EarthTainer+extension. Add in any savings you might get with bulk buys and sale items and you could save not only lots of money but also lots of water.
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cdevidal,

I want to be clear that the EarthTainer is not a competitor to the EarthBox product from the good folks at the EarthBox Company. Blake and his Company are doing many humanitarian projects around the world, and I support them as a "customer" for their Automated Watering System and I own EarthBoxes purchased from them too.

In doing any cost comparison, you also need to count in your time and tools to the final equation. I roughly calculated my "true" cost of each EarthTainer is closer to $100 at the end of the day, which is more expensive than an EarthBox ready to use.

Having said that, my concern with the EarthBox (for me) was that it only held about 1.5 cubic feet of potting mix, and I wanted a vessel that would hold at least 3 cubic feet in order to grow large heirloom tomatoes and sweet corn. The 31 gallon Rubbermaid size 'Tainer fit the bill perfectly.

So if you are planting vegetables such a peppers, the EarthBox is an ideal solution. If your goal is really big tomato plants and crops such as sweet corn, then building an EarthTainer may be the way to go. It's nice to have choices.....

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After reading all these posts and going over to TF and reading your updated instructions, AND after Ami's question, I am not crystal clear on one point. When you put the landscape fabric into the bottom, do you cover the hole made for the wicking basket so that there is soil to fabric to soil contact, or do you do a cut out of the landscaping fabric over the new 5" wicking basket???
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Ted,

I first fill the 'Tainer with water until it hits the level of the overflow holes. Then I fill the 5" diameter wicking basket with potting mix and compress it down so it is thoroughly wet. I mound it up like the top of a cupcake about 1" above the surface of the aeration bench (This is to account for any long term compression inside the wicking basket). You never want an air-pocket to develop in between the landscape fabric and the top of the potting mix in the wicking basket or the system will stop wicking.

Next, I place the landscape fabric on top of the aeration bench, wet it over the mound of potting mix, and then pat it with my hand to commence the moisture transmission. No slits at all in the landscape fabric, other than to skirt around the filler tube. I then add the 3.3 cubic ft. of potting mix, 2" layers at a time, soaking it with water to make sure the entire mix is moistened.

Do you think I need more clarity in the Guide, and if so, I will add these above details in the next Rev.

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Thanks for this amplification, Ray. Incidentally I think your efforts are brilliant. I thought I had read up on this adequately but you can bet that I would have cut an opening in the fabric where it went over the wicking basket. I don't understand all the discussion about whether to mound the mix or not. It's pretty simple really - mound it up and get on with it. Am searching for local source of fabric right now. In Oz they seem to call it geofabric.
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John,

I will update the instructions in Rev 1.6 to emphasize over-filling the wicking basket with potting mix BEFORE laying the landscape fabric down. Kind of make a cupcake dome on the wicking basket first.

This will assure good capillary action over several seasons to transfer moisture from the water reservoir up into the potting mix chamber.

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Ray, I just went back and re-read the instructions. My experience as a tech writer tells me this.

If I had never seen the instructions for your first versions, I might assume no cutout over the wicking basket. I also might not catch the importance of the mounding and packing of the wicking basket. You had a lot of emphasis on the contact of the wicking area to the main body in the previous versions. If it were me, I would add something (like the paragraph you wrote in your previous post above) somewhere near step 3 or step 4 on page 13. I think it's very important that you be crystal clear on the packing down and the mounding and its importance. The folks who have already made some of the original designs need something to catch their eye or they might skim-read and miss this important change. This additional paragraph would give you a chance to really emphasize the point.

Besides, if two or more people named "Ted" ask the same or a similar question, .......Well........you know.......... 8)
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Old November 28, 2008   #13
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While explaining the mounding over the wicking basket is a
good idea, I think people who miss that will probably get away
with it, simply because any landscape fabric that will absorb
water will also stretch when pressure is applied to it while it
is wet. The same pressure that compresses container mix
in the wicking basket would also push the landscape fabric
above it down into the top of the wicking basket, so soil to
fabric contact will be maintained.

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(There is no way for pressure above the fabric to compress the container
mix in the basket without pushing the fabric down into it too.)

There may be a different issue that instructions to mound up soil
above the wicking basket before adding landscape fabric may help
with, which is setting the whole thing up dry before adding any
water.

One thing to try: take a wicking basket on its own, outside the container,
and fill it with dry container mix, then set it in a bowl of water. After it
soaks up the water, check the level of mix in the wicking basket
to see if it still comes up to the top. Even if that happens (if users set
up the whole thing with dry container mix then add water via the fill
tube), the weight of mix above the fabric may still deform it down into
the gap created as container mix in the wicking basket loses volume
when it soaks up water the first time.

Instructions to mound up mix in the basket before adding the landscape
fabric should eliminate possible problems with setting the whole thing
up dry before adding water via the reservoir (which is the way most
gardeners transplant and repot: they use dry mix, wet it once the plant
is transplanted, then fill in a little around the top to level the mix
in the container).
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Hi Dice,

My assessment is that the landscape fabric is quite inelastic, and does not stretch under weight. My concern is that with the water reservoir constantly filling and dropping via wicking, I was concerned that the potting mix in the basket would be depleted over time.

As the weight of the 3.3 cubic feet of the potting mix holds the inelastic fabric in place, it is not very likely that the area over the wicking basket will "droop" down into the wicking basket.

It only takes a broken air gap if 1/4" or so to prevent the moisture in the water reservoir from wicking up into the 3.3 cu. ft. potting mix. So I erred on the conservative side to make the 1" mound over the wicking basket to compensate for the settling that will naturally occur. Also, by making that cupcake mound initially, the landscape fabric is then in a convex form, and will leave flexing of the material to eventually form a concave shape as the mix in the wicking basket settles. Make sense??

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Quote:
Make sense?
Sure, I think it is a good idea. It is just that most of the
landscape fabric that I have used was fairly soft and pliable
once it was wet, and I still think that stuff may deform into
the hole with wet soil above it. (I have seen so-called
"commercial grade" landscape fabric that was made of different
material, seemed like a plastic or some kind of fiber with a slick
coating on it, that probably does not have the same
characteristics).

I can see fine material being carried out of the wicking basket
by water over time and dispersing in the reservoir, so it makes
sense that the original mix in the wicking basket will lose
volume. I did not particularly pack it in there this year, because
I was not using landscape fabric beneath the container mix and
expected no problems with wicking, but I will probably
remember this detail the next time I set one up.:-)
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