The Versus Thread - Page 3

Tormato · January 28, 2016

Quote:

Originally Posted by Labradors2

Indian Stripe vs Margaret Curtain?

Linda

That's dirt vs mud in Tormato speak.

I apologize in advance to those that like 'em both.

sjamesNorway · January 29, 2016

There's interesting information emerging here. Just a reminder of my original pair: Big Beef vs Goliath?

Steve

Sydney Grower · January 29, 2016

I grew Black Cherry and Chocolate Cherry this season. I have loved Black Cherry for a while and was surprised that I couldn’t pick any difference in appearance and taste between the two. With a similar growth habit, the only thing that splits it for me in my garden is that BC has trusses with 15-30 fruit while CC has a more usual truss size.

tsipgolf12 · January 29, 2016

I have grown both in the past and saw little difference in production but did favor the taste
of Goliath over Big Beef in my western North Carolina garden. Hope that helps

sjamesNorway · January 29, 2016

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsipgolf12

I have grown both in the past and saw little difference in production but did favor the taste
of Goliath over Big Beef in my western North Carolina garden. Hope that helps

Thanks tsipgolf12. I'm beginning to wonder why so many here swear by Big Beef.

Steve

creister · January 29, 2016

[QUOTE=sjamesNorway;528870]Thanks tsipgolf12. I'm beginning to wonder why so many here swear by Big Beef.

Both are very good tomatoes. I wonder if the answer to your question could be simply Big Beef gets more recognition in the tomato growing community. I do know that here in my area, the stores tend to carry more Big Beef, while only some carry Goliath, and then not as many. I like them both, and can go with either one if I need to.

creister · January 29, 2016

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmsieglaff

"What specifically about the JF flavor did you prefer over the EoE? Balance/skewing toward sweet/tart or just over intensity, etc"

I think the JF had more sweet/fruity tones in it, and that seemed to be what I liked. EoE wasn't bad, and I will grow it again at some point.

sjamesNorway · January 29, 2016

[QUOTE=creister;528880]

Quote:

Originally Posted by sjamesNorway

Thanks tsipgolf12. I'm beginning to wonder why so many here swear by Big Beef.

Both are very good tomatoes. I wonder if the answer to your question could be simply Big Beef gets more recognition in the tomato growing community. I do know that here in my area, the stores tend to carry more Big Beef, while only some carry Goliath, and then not as many. I like them both, and can go with either one if I need to.

That seems to be a reasonable explanation, creister.

Steve

Gardeneer · January 29, 2016

One of the reasons that Big Beef is so popular is because of its soil borne disease resistance. So it is widely used as root stock. So it is promoted.
But also it has consistent positive review on production and flavor. It is time proven and tested F1 brand. Its close rivals are Better Boy and Big Boy. They are all know as "All American Favorites".
I personally wouldn't want to take risk trying to grow a brand/variety of hybrid that is unknown to me.
Gardeneer

Ricky Shaw · January 29, 2016

I've grown Goliath and Big Beef side by side and the Big Beef in general stayed healthier and out produced Goliath. I think taste is comparable, just came down to production for me.

sjamesNorway · January 29, 2016

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gardeneer

One of the reasons that Big Beef is so popular is because of its soil borne disease resistance. So it is widely used as root stock. So it is promoted.
But also it has consistent positive review on production and flavor. It is time proven and tested F1 brand. Its close rivals are Better Boy and Big Boy. They are all know as "All American Favorites".
I personally wouldn't want to take risk trying to grow a brand/variety of hybrid that is unknown to me.
Gardeneer

Shumway lists Goliath hybrid's resistances as VFFNTASt., and Big Beef's as VFFNASt. Many give Goliath higher scores for taste (see the Cornell reviews: link in post 1), and scores for yield are alike. I won't try to convince you, but I'd hazard a guess there was a time when Big Beef was unknown to you, Gardeneer.

**coronabarb** · January 29, 2016

JF is a very tasty tomato. I always try to have at least one plant in my garden. One of my favorites. I have never grown Goliath but BB has done well for me both in So Cal and in So Oregon. I am happy enough with the flavor to get that dependability. BVV, I do agree that many farmers market customers go for the red. But once they get it home, if it has good flavor, they will be back for more.

Worth, I have grown both ARGG and Paul Robison and love them both. ARGG has been a very prolific and great tasting tomato both here in Oregon and in So Cal. PR is hands down the best tomato I have ever eaten BUT in So Cal, it produced very poorly...as in maybe 5 - 7 tomatoes per plant. But it was SO delicious, I'd pick and eat for breakfast. Did I mention it's alluring dark maroon color? I'll have to look around and see if I still have seeds so I can give it a try here in So Oregon where it USUALLY doesn't get so hot in the summer (wondering if heat doesn't agree with it) If you find a black that is better tasting, let me know!

jmsieglaff · January 29, 2016

Some nice replies from people that have grown these pairs-----keep 'em coming you experienced tomato folks!

Deborah · January 29, 2016

This may be the right thread for this question: I think I've read that there's a good Big Beef as to production and a not so good. Which one is the one I'd grow for the most tomatoes?

**coronabarb** · January 29, 2016

I've only grown regular ole Big Beef and had more tomatoes than I can handle. Can't imagine there being a strain that puts out even more!

January 29, 2016	#42
coronabarb Tomatoville® Recipe Keeper Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Roseburg, Oregon - zone 7 Posts: 2,821	JF is a very tasty tomato. I always try to have at least one plant in my garden. One of my favorites. I have never grown Goliath but BB has done well for me both in So Cal and in So Oregon. I am happy enough with the flavor to get that dependability. BVV, I do agree that many farmers market customers go for the red. But once they get it home, if it has good flavor, they will be back for more. Worth, I have grown both ARGG and Paul Robison and love them both. ARGG has been a very prolific and great tasting tomato both here in Oregon and in So Cal. PR is hands down the best tomato I have ever eaten BUT in So Cal, it produced very poorly...as in maybe 5 - 7 tomatoes per plant. But it was SO delicious, I'd pick and eat for breakfast. Did I mention it's alluring dark maroon color? I'll have to look around and see if I still have seeds so I can give it a try here in So Oregon where it USUALLY doesn't get so hot in the summer (wondering if heat doesn't agree with it) If you find a black that is better tasting, let me know! __________________ Corona~Barb Now an Oregon gal

January 29, 2016	#44
Deborah Riding The Crazy Train Again Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: San Marcos, California Posts: 2,562	This may be the right thread for this question: I think I've read that there's a good Big Beef as to production and a not so good. Which one is the one I'd grow for the most tomatoes? __________________ "The righteous one cares for the needs of his animal". Proverbs 12:10

January 29, 2016	#45
coronabarb Tomatoville® Recipe Keeper Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Roseburg, Oregon - zone 7 Posts: 2,821	I've only grown regular ole Big Beef and had more tomatoes than I can handle. Can't imagine there being a strain that puts out even more! __________________ Corona~Barb Now an Oregon gal

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January 29, 2016	#32
sjamesNorway Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Norway Posts: 1,049	There's interesting information emerging here. Just a reminder of my original pair: Big Beef vs Goliath? Steve

January 29, 2016	#33
Sydney Grower Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 122	I grew Black Cherry and Chocolate Cherry this season. I have loved Black Cherry for a while and was surprised that I couldn’t pick any difference in appearance and taste between the two. With a similar growth habit, the only thing that splits it for me in my garden is that BC has trusses with 15-30 fruit while CC has a more usual truss size.

January 29, 2016	#34
tsipgolf12 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Western North Carolina Posts: 79	I have grown both in the past and saw little difference in production but did favor the taste of Goliath over Big Beef in my western North Carolina garden. Hope that helps

January 29, 2016	#36
creister Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Abilene, TX zone 7 Posts: 1,478	[QUOTE=sjamesNorway;528870]Thanks tsipgolf12. I'm beginning to wonder why so many here swear by Big Beef. Both are very good tomatoes. I wonder if the answer to your question could be simply Big Beef gets more recognition in the tomato growing community. I do know that here in my area, the stores tend to carry more Big Beef, while only some carry Goliath, and then not as many. I like them both, and can go with either one if I need to.

January 29, 2016	#39
Gardeneer Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: NC - zone 8a - heat zone 7 Posts: 4,909	One of the reasons that Big Beef is so popular is because of its soil borne disease resistance. So it is widely used as root stock. So it is promoted. But also it has consistent positive review on production and flavor. It is time proven and tested F1 brand. Its close rivals are Better Boy and Big Boy. They are all know as "All American Favorites". I personally wouldn't want to take risk trying to grow a brand/variety of hybrid that is unknown to me. Gardeneer

January 29, 2016	#40
Ricky Shaw Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Zone 6a Denver North Metro Posts: 1,910	I've grown Goliath and Big Beef side by side and the Big Beef in general stayed healthier and out produced Goliath. I think taste is comparable, just came down to production for me.

January 29, 2016	#43
jmsieglaff Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Southern WI Posts: 2,742	Some nice replies from people that have grown these pairs-----keep 'em coming you experienced tomato folks!