What is it about hearts? - Page 4

OneoftheEarls · November 8, 2010

http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Category

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THE only place I saw it initially listed as a paste was at Sandhill where I had sent it and when Tom, the originator of the variety, saw that he let Glenn know it wasn't a paste, and I agree.

Prue is genetically stable but does have differently shaped fruits on a single plant but it's juicy and has the normal number of seeds as do non-pastes.

I did not insert the "razz" Carolyn, the pasted url has an ":" in it...lol

b54red · November 8, 2010

Tom, I also thought that Wes was a tasty tomato and I ranked it second in flavor of the hearts I grew this year. Of course next year could be totally different. Linnies was only a moderate/low producer in the spring but is one of my most productive fall tomatoes as a matter of fact it was the only heart to survive the plant out in July during a blistering heat wave.

goodwin · November 8, 2010

Wes rules, but here's another one to think about putting on the list - Lithuanian Crested Pink. Very nice fruit and a good late producer. I had just one plant, but I was picking four or five of these a week.

feldon30 · November 9, 2010

I find that heart-shaped tomatoes can have a meaty almost savory taste beyond that of a beefsteak.

My favorites by far are Tony's Italian (which is so spindly that you can safely grow 2 or even 3 plants inside a single cage) and Cherokee Sausage.

**carolyn137** · November 9, 2010

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Originally Posted by feldon30

I find that heart-shaped tomatoes can have a meaty almost savory taste beyond that of a beefsteak.

My favorites by far are Tony's Italian (which is so spindly that you can safely grow 2 or even 3 plants inside a single cage) and Cherokee Sausage.

Feldon, are you saying that Tony's Italian is heart shaped? it never was for me. I sent seeds of it to Suze a few years ago and I know she liked it very much but not a heart. Or were you just saying that it and Cherokee Sausage are non-heart faves of yours.

feldon30 · November 9, 2010

Tony's Italian

Cherokee Sausage aka Wessel's Purple Pride

Not sure if they fit your definition of heart though.

Prue, Sarnowski's Polish Plum, Wes, and Tony's Italian all have a similar flavor to me, but different fruit shapes. In my simplistic classification system, I group them together into oxheart/plum/paste/whatever since they all have meaty interior, reduced juice and reduced seeds. Not all have wispy growth. No doubt my oversimplification into one category offends someone.

tjg911 · November 9, 2010

feldon not to answer for carolyn but that shape is the same as 90% of the prue tomatoes are shaped and i would not call it heart shaped. while not a true plum shape, i'd say it is more of a plum than a heart. now wes is truly heart shaped. interesting comments about grouping prue and wes with Sarnowski's Polish Plum and Tony's Italian. makes me wonder whether to try them but this season the garden is already over filled with varieties. i have been considering planting in a community garden for the $10 fee. space is reasonably sized, i could fit a lot of tomatoes in there!

tom

chalstonsc · November 9, 2010

I'm a fan of hearts too and would appreciate recommendations anyone can make for compact, preferably semi-determinate ones that I can add to seeds I have now for Danko, Serdtse Buivola, and Zolotoe Serdtse...thanks.
Tom

Wi-sunflower · November 9, 2010

I would like to add a vote for Vera's Seed as a productive heart.

I grew it last year for the first time and it produced like all get out. Many of them were large double hearts too. I had one that was 2.5 lbs. Nice pink heart.

When my plant customers ask for something "meaty" I will often stear tham to the hearts. I tell them it's a good all-round tomato, good for slicing or canning. Kind of like a cross of a beefsteak with a roma.

Maybe not the best description but they usually know what I mean.

Carol

**carolyn137** · November 9, 2010

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Originally Posted by Wi-sunflower

I would like to add a vote for Vera's Seed as a productive heart.

I grew it last year for the first time and it produced like all get out. Many of them were large double hearts too. I had one that was 2.5 lbs. Nice pink heart.

When my plant customers ask for something "meaty" I will often stear tham to the hearts. I tell them it's a good all-round tomato, good for slicing or canning. Kind of like a cross of a beefsteak with a roma.

Maybe not the best description but they usually know what I mean.

Carol

Carol is referring to the variety which is known as:

Vjerino Paradajiz Sjeme

... which is a mouthful and I have to look it up to remember how to spell it but it translates out to Vera's tomato seed. And that's how you'll find it probably at Tania's site, although I didn't check, at perhaps other seed sites and that's how it's listed in the YEarbook b/c it was the name that Leslie gave me.

it's a variety I first introduced in the SSE Yearbook in 2003, my seeds from Leslie who got them from her mother in law in Bosnia.

Wi-sunflower · November 9, 2010

Yup, that's the one.

And for the same reason as you, Vera's is a lot easier to remember.

Carol

Tormato · November 12, 2010

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Originally Posted by Wi-sunflower

Yup, that's the one.

And for the same reason as you, Vera's is a lot easier to remember.

Carol

I guess I've been remembering an incorrect translation for several years; "Vera's Seed of Paradise".

Gary

Wi-sunflower · November 12, 2010

Yes there was a thread discussing the correct translation last year about this same time.

I had picked the "seed of paradise" from someone's trade list last year before that thread got going. When the seeds came they were listed as "Vjera's seed". That's how I listed it in last year's yearbook but I've since changed my listings to "Vera's seed" as that seems closer to the proper name.

They really are a nice tomato dispite the name issues.

Carol

**carolyn137** · November 12, 2010

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Originally Posted by Wi-sunflower

Yes there was a thread discussing the correct translation last year about this same time.

I had picked the "seed of paradise" from someone's trade list last year before that thread got going. When the seeds came they were listed as "Vjera's seed". That's how I listed it in last year's yearbook but I've since changed my listings to "Vera's seed" as that seems closer to the proper name.

They really are a nice tomato dispite the name issues.

Carol

Gary, Carol, take a look at Tania's listing for it and you'll see that the middle word can be spelled another way.

I first listed it as it was given to me by Leslie from her MIL in Bosnia with an extrra "i" in it, and it does translate out to Vera's Tomato Seeds.

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/paradajz

... spelled as in the link above, which is how Tania, I think listed it, the word means tomato and Sjeme means seed (s)

I remember kidding Leslie about it and asking if that's the way she wanted the variety to be known and she deferred to her MIL and said that's the way her MIL wanted it to be known.

GunnarSK · November 14, 2010

I have Vjerino Paradajiz Sjeme as well, from Carol. She sells it as Vera's Seed, but Carolyn used the original name in the Yearbook and her seed offer here this year. It is OK to me as long as no one translates "Paradajiz" to anything else than "tomato". Apparently that is a regional word, as Czech "rajské jablko" (paradise apple) and short "rajče " mean exactly the same, and I think that is the case in unrelated Hungarian also, making Géza's screen name mean "the tomato king".

November 9, 2010	#49
feldon30 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2006 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 5,346	I find that heart-shaped tomatoes can have a meaty almost savory taste beyond that of a beefsteak. My favorites by far are Tony's Italian (which is so spindly that you can safely grow 2 or even 3 plants inside a single cage) and Cherokee Sausage. __________________ [SIZE="3"]I've relaunched my gardening website -- [B]TheUnconventionalTomato.com[/B][/SIZE] * [I][SIZE="1"]*I'm not allowed to post weblinks so you'll have to copy-paste it manually.[/SIZE][/I]

November 9, 2010	#51
feldon30 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2006 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 5,346	Tony's Italian Cherokee Sausage aka Wessel's Purple Pride Not sure if they fit your definition of heart though. Prue, Sarnowski's Polish Plum, Wes, and Tony's Italian all have a similar flavor to me, but different fruit shapes. In my simplistic classification system, I group them together into oxheart/plum/paste/whatever since they all have meaty interior, reduced juice and reduced seeds. Not all have wispy growth. No doubt my oversimplification into one category offends someone. __________________ [SIZE="3"]I've relaunched my gardening website -- [B]TheUnconventionalTomato.com[/B][/SIZE] * [I][SIZE="1"]*I'm not allowed to post weblinks so you'll have to copy-paste it manually.[/SIZE][/I]

November 9, 2010	#52
tjg911 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: zone 5b northwest connecticut Posts: 2,570	feldon not to answer for carolyn but that shape is the same as 90% of the prue tomatoes are shaped and i would not call it heart shaped. while not a true plum shape, i'd say it is more of a plum than a heart. now wes is truly heart shaped. interesting comments about grouping prue and wes with Sarnowski's Polish Plum and Tony's Italian. makes me wonder whether to try them but this season the garden is already over filled with varieties. i have been considering planting in a community garden for the $10 fee. space is reasonably sized, i could fit a lot of tomatoes in there! tom __________________ I need a hero I’m holding out for a hero ‘til the end of the night He’s gotta be strong And he’s gotta be fast And he’s gotta be fresh from the fight I need a hero I’m holding out for a hero ‘til the morning light He’s gotta be sure And it’s gotta be soon And he’s gotta be larger than life

November 8, 2010	#47
b54red Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Alabama Posts: 7,068	Tom, I also thought that Wes was a tasty tomato and I ranked it second in flavor of the hearts I grew this year. Of course next year could be totally different. Linnies was only a moderate/low producer in the spring but is one of my most productive fall tomatoes as a matter of fact it was the only heart to survive the plant out in July during a blistering heat wave.

November 9, 2010	#53
chalstonsc Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: sc Posts: 339	I'm a fan of hearts too and would appreciate recommendations anyone can make for compact, preferably semi-determinate ones that I can add to seeds I have now for Danko, Serdtse Buivola, and Zolotoe Serdtse...thanks. Tom

November 9, 2010	#54
Wi-sunflower Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 2,591	I would like to add a vote for Vera's Seed as a productive heart. I grew it last year for the first time and it produced like all get out. Many of them were large double hearts too. I had one that was 2.5 lbs. Nice pink heart. When my plant customers ask for something "meaty" I will often stear tham to the hearts. I tell them it's a good all-round tomato, good for slicing or canning. Kind of like a cross of a beefsteak with a roma. Maybe not the best description but they usually know what I mean. Carol

November 12, 2010	#58
Wi-sunflower Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 2,591	Yes there was a thread discussing the correct translation last year about this same time. I had picked the "seed of paradise" from someone's trade list last year before that thread got going. When the seeds came they were listed as "Vjera's seed". That's how I listed it in last year's yearbook but I've since changed my listings to "Vera's seed" as that seems closer to the proper name. They really are a nice tomato dispite the name issues. Carol

November 14, 2010	#60
GunnarSK Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Warsaw, Poland 52° N Posts: 363	I have Vjerino Paradajiz Sjeme as well, from Carol. She sells it as Vera's Seed, but Carolyn used the original name in the Yearbook and her seed offer here this year. It is OK to me as long as no one translates "Paradajiz" to anything else than "tomato". Apparently that is a regional word, as Czech "rajské jablko" (paradise apple) and short "rajče " mean exactly the same, and I think that is the case in unrelated Hungarian also, making Géza's screen name mean "the tomato king".