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nicky · December 1, 2011

I have often found mason jars free on my local Kijiji, in case anyone is interested.

It doesn't sound like it will break the bank for you Worth! I hope it goes well. Keep us informed on how the tomatoes like their new homes!

dice · December 4, 2011

It looks like a jar of air.

Neohippie · December 5, 2011

I have been able to find generic canning jars some places. Ball doesn't have a total monopoly. I once got a whole bunch from Big Lots, and I think HEB even has a generic brand of jars along with the Ball ones.

Also, I've been told that you're not supposed to save up jars from other things and re-use them for canning... but I'm naughty and sometimes do that anyway! (but to be on the safe side, I mostly use those "unofficial" jars to store dried fruits and veggies in, I only can with them if I run out of the "real" jars).

But saving jars from other things and drilling holes in them and using them for seedings? That should be ok.

I knew a guy in college who bought a bunch of canning jars to grow mushrooms in. So uh... yeah they should work for tomatoes too.

Worth1 · February 20, 2012

The jar thing is a success and will post pictures soon.
I had to order a 1/2 inch diamond hole saw on line and it worked great.
Took about 3 minutes to drill the hole.
Right now my wives

are headed home with more jars for the plants from seeds Carolyn sent me.

Worth

Zana · February 20, 2012

Wives??????? LMAO....oh man....no way am I going to touch that one....heehee

Can't wait to see the pics. I have allot of old canning jars that have chips that aren't good for canning anymore, but might be good for this type of stuff.

Zana

Mudman · February 20, 2012

The more the merrier!

Jars I mean.

jennifer28 · February 20, 2012

Wives?

anywho, I get free mason jars on freecycle.org all the time. I love that site.

Worth1 · February 20, 2012

Here are a few shots of the project I dont have the best growing conditions due to my situation at work but here it is.
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Zana · February 20, 2012

I like the reusability of those pint jars. As long as you pack them well between uses....lol. Can't wait to see what contraption you come up with as the cart to move them around on.

Zana

Petronius_II · February 20, 2012

If I had chimed in before Worth revealed the answer, I would've just said...

...That's a purrrdy jar. It's purrrrdy.

In Worth's photo 4, that's a purrrdy tomato plant. It's very purrrrdy.

Photo 6, that includes a very purrrrdy agave plant. It's so purrrrrdy.

To me, the original photo represents purrrrrdiness. If I were a tomcat, I'd look at that photo and it would make me want to purrrrrrrr.
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In other news:

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I still don't know why glass is a liquid though.

Molasses is a liquid. At temperatures well below room temperature, but still above freezing, say 40 degrees F for instance, it flows very, very slowly.

Glass is a liquid. Most scientists would prefer to say "fluid," I suppose. It happens to have much higher viscosity than molasses does. At temperatures far above room temperature, it flows very, very, very, very,

...very, very, very, very, very, very, very...

...very, very, very, very, very, very, very...

...sl...

...ow...

...ly.

salix · February 20, 2012

Yes, I know that part, Petronius, that is why very very old windows are thicker and wavy at the bottom. I want to know at what point, or what determines if a substance is solid or otherwise. Most metals I believe are solid, but at high enough temperatures, they too will flow...

RebelRidin · February 20, 2012

As glass cools its viscosity rises to a rigid state without forming a crystaline structure. It's molecules remain disordered and thus... a liquid. Note, not all solids are crystaline but there is a distinct change in their molecular arangement at the point of transition form liquid to solid.... (or so I have ben told. I myself can not see molecules...)

"A liquid has viscosity, a measure of its resistance to flow. The viscosity of water at room temperature is about 0.01 poises. A thick oil might have a viscosity of about 1.0 poise. As a liquid is cooled its viscosity normally increases, but viscosity also has a tendency to prevent crystallisation. Usually when a liquid is cooled to below its melting point, crystals form and it solidifies; but sometimes it can become supercooled and remain liquid below its melting point because there are no nucleation sites to initiate the crystallisation. If the viscosity rises enough as it is cooled further, it may never crystallise. The viscosity rises rapidly and continuously, forming a thick syrup and eventually an amorphous solid. The molecules then have a disordered arrangement, but sufficient cohesion to maintain some rigidity. In this state it is often called an amorphous solid or glass."

salix · February 20, 2012

Thank you for the explanation, RebelR. It is absolutely amazing the things I have learned on this forum, and also how many wonderfully helpful people there are in this world!

Worth1 · February 20, 2012

What in hell has this got to do with my plants.
Does this mean my jars will melt and flow away.

jennifer28 · February 20, 2012

Well, it could happen in Alaska since the ambient temperature is lower but definitely not in Texas. My sister in Homer AK has confirmed this. (OK now I am just making things up, you caught me - well except about having a sister in Alaska).

December 4, 2011	#32
dice Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: PNW Posts: 4,743	It looks like a jar of air. __________________ -- alias Last edited by dice; December 4, 2011 at 04:49 AM. Reason: emphasize appearance

February 20, 2012	#36
Mudman Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: NW Wisconsin Posts: 910	The more the merrier! Jars I mean. __________________ Mike

February 20, 2012	#38
Worth1 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Den of Drunken Fools Posts: 38,539	Here are a few shots of the project I dont have the best growing conditions due to my situation at work but here it is. Attachment 22337 Attachment 22338 Attachment 22339 Attachment 22340 Attachment 22341 Attachment 22342 Last edited by Worth1; November 17, 2012 at 05:42 PM.

February 20, 2012	#42
RebelRidin Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Maryland's Eastern Shore Posts: 993	As glass cools its viscosity rises to a rigid state without forming a crystaline structure. It's molecules remain disordered and thus... a liquid. Note, not all solids are crystaline but there is a distinct change in their molecular arangement at the point of transition form liquid to solid.... (or so I have ben told. I myself can not see molecules...) "A liquid has viscosity, a measure of its resistance to flow. The viscosity of water at room temperature is about 0.01 poises. A thick oil might have a viscosity of about 1.0 poise. As a liquid is cooled its viscosity normally increases, but viscosity also has a tendency to prevent crystallisation. Usually when a liquid is cooled to below its melting point, crystals form and it solidifies; but sometimes it can become supercooled and remain liquid below its melting point because there are no nucleation sites to initiate the crystallisation. If the viscosity rises enough as it is cooled further, it may never crystallise. The viscosity rises rapidly and continuously, forming a thick syrup and eventually an amorphous solid. The molecules then have a disordered arrangement, but sufficient cohesion to maintain some rigidity. In this state it is often called an amorphous solid or glass." __________________ George _____________________________ "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it’s natural manure." Thomas Jefferson, 1787

December 1, 2011	#31
nicky Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Ontario Posts: 600	I have often found mason jars free on my local Kijiji, in case anyone is interested. It doesn't sound like it will break the bank for you Worth! I hope it goes well. Keep us informed on how the tomatoes like their new homes!

December 5, 2011	#33
Neohippie Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: San Marcos, Texas Posts: 77	I have been able to find generic canning jars some places. Ball doesn't have a total monopoly. I once got a whole bunch from Big Lots, and I think HEB even has a generic brand of jars along with the Ball ones. Also, I've been told that you're not supposed to save up jars from other things and re-use them for canning... but I'm naughty and sometimes do that anyway! (but to be on the safe side, I mostly use those "unofficial" jars to store dried fruits and veggies in, I only can with them if I run out of the "real" jars). But saving jars from other things and drilling holes in them and using them for seedings? That should be ok. I knew a guy in college who bought a bunch of canning jars to grow mushrooms in. So uh... yeah they should work for tomatoes too.

February 20, 2012	#35
Zana Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Southwestern Ontario, Canada Posts: 4,521	Wives??????? LMAO....oh man....no way am I going to touch that one....heehee Can't wait to see the pics. I have allot of old canning jars that have chips that aren't good for canning anymore, but might be good for this type of stuff. Zana

February 20, 2012	#37
jennifer28 Two-faced Drama Queen Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Bellevue Psychiatric Hospital Posts: 955	Wives? anywho, I get free mason jars on freecycle.org all the time. I love that site.

February 20, 2012	#41
salix Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: north central B.C. Posts: 2,310	Yes, I know that part, Petronius, that is why very very old windows are thicker and wavy at the bottom. I want to know at what point, or what determines if a substance is solid or otherwise. Most metals I believe are solid, but at high enough temperatures, they too will flow...