Straight from ferment to planting?

[Keiththibodeaux]

If the timing just works out that way, is there any reason not to go straight from fermenting to planting? In other words, is a dry out period beneficial?

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by Keiththibodeaux

If the timing just works out that way, is there any reason not to go straight from fermenting to planting? In other words, is a dry out period beneficial?

Drying the seeds is beneficial if you're going to store them, one way or the other, and almost everyone I know does dry them.

But no problem sowing seed straight from fermentation without drying. There have been a couple of times that I had to take fresh seeds right out of a fruit and sow the seeds without fermentation.

[Keiththibodeaux]

Originally Posted by carolyn137

Drying the seeds is beneficial if you're going to store them, one way or the other, and almost everyone I know does dry them.

But no problem sowing seed straight from fermentation without drying. There have been a couple of times that I had to take fresh seeds right out of a fruit and sow the seeds without fermentation.

Carolyn,

How did the straight from fruit to planting work out? We are on a hard deadline to start seeds down here, being 6 weeks from plant out time.

[Keiththibodeaux]

Just as a note, the seeds that I took straight from fermenting to planting are up in 2 days. And I mean straight, I rinsed them in the fermenting glass and poured them straight into the planter.

[Worth1]

I just thought I would put this here instead of yet another thread.

I dont ferment due to extreme laziness.
I sowed some seeds from 2007 and all of them came up with no soaking.
All I do is rub off the jell coat in a tea strainer and let dry then store in a coin envelope in a box.

Then the other day I see a thing on the net that says you have to ferment tomato seeds before they will sprout.

And I have read that they have to dry out first.

All of this is wrong and an example of how misinformation can be put out there for all to see and believe.

As a matter of fact with some trees and plants it is easier to sprout the seeds if you DONT let them dry.

Worth

[dice]

The gel coat may inhibit germination (cause it to take longer, until
bacteria eat the gel coat), but it does not prevent it. As for drying out
first, I have had seeds sprout in the fermentation container.

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by Keiththibodeaux

Carolyn,

How did the straight from fruit to planting work out? We are on a hard deadline to start seeds down here, being 6 weeks from plant out time.

I'm sorry, I didn't see your question until now.

Germination was about 100%.

Dice, the germination inhibitor is part of the life cycle of the tomato and does not inhibit germination when the temps are OK for germination.

So the purpose of that inhibitor is to keep the seeds dormant thru the winter or colder times when ripesfruits fall to the ground.

And then we know them as volunteers when they pop up in the Spring when temps allow for germination.

[dice]

I had some Moravsky Div fruit shrivel up and dry out before I got around
to fermenting them. I crumbled them up in a bag and saved them. The
next spring, I sprouted some of those seeds in coir, and they came up
about the same time as everything else that had seeds only a year or
two old.

[maxfromaustralia]

Hi everyone

I tried this test- I planted seeds straight from a tomato and;
Fermanted seeds from the same variety and then planted them.
Even though the fermenting took 2-3 days the fermented seeds came up before the first lot did.

So in my experience if you want a quick germination ferment and plant wet. Cheers Max