Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.
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January 9, 2018 | #1 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Greenville, South Carolina
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Early determinate tomatoes for the South
That actually taste like something. Ok annnnd go!
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January 10, 2018 | #2 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Laurinburg, North Carolina, zone 7
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How about Black Krim,Lime Green Salad tomato. Marglobe is good,too.
I may do a few dwarfs or determinates in pots early and wrap some row cover or net over them to help with stink bugs and leaf footed bugs. That’s been my biggest issue since we moved here is the bugs,especially once it starts to get hot. Maybe I just need to get my tomatoes done early like I did in AZ and make room for the melons/ hot weather stuff? |
January 10, 2018 | #3 |
Tomatovillian™
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That's my goal. I find it's better to start early, plant early, and short season stuff does best. Succession is also key. This year I'm going to do 50% determinates to avoid bugs and have more production early. I could just grow Mountain Fresh and the like, but I was hoping to find a less firm and tasty variety. Black Krim didn't seem to like the heat here. Marglobe production was minimal. Haven't tried LGS.
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January 10, 2018 | #4 | |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Plantation, Florida zone 10
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Meanwhile you are correct you do need my Not Chocolate Stripes. That one is going to be a big seller. Unfortunately it is an indeterminate but it does produce a lot of tomatoes and early. And you can save seeds. |
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January 10, 2018 | #5 | |
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Looking at more det reds it looks like Amelia is a good one here (recommended by UGA/Clemson) but is mid season. I'm also looking at several here https://www.adaptiveseeds.com/seeds/...ly-season-red/ but them being in Oregon worries me b/c cold weather Indet. tomatoes do terribly here. It may not matter for an early det. though, I just don't know. |
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January 10, 2018 | #6 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: North GA
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Since you requested determinate, Taxi is a good yellow. I'm sure you have grown it, but thought I would mention it. I used to grow Daybreak (red -large, 65 days fantastic flavor) and OrangeBlossom from Johnnysseeds. Breeder discontinued Daybreak, but maybe you can find it. Orange Blossom appears to be replaced by BHN-871, which is later and larger. I wonder if you can still find OrangeBlossom.
Not sure about the fruit size you require, but the project dwarfs Pink Passion and Golden Heart are very early and produce very well for dwarfs. It appears that Dwarf Arctic Rose has good fruit size and great production but have not grown that one. Bill |
January 10, 2018 | #7 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Illinois, zone 6
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Maglia Rosa, Cole, and Sol Guld (I was misspelling that sol gold for a while) have all been good to me. I have an early red saladette called Aura that I like, and another early red called Agatha. I think both have Soviet origins.
Mat-Su Express is just as early as most of my determinates. I also like Babushkin Potseluy. It reminds me of a yellow Mat-Su. 100 Pudov is another early variety that was a good market tomato for me. It has a unique wrinkled shoulder look. Someone on here shared a variety they call Taos Trail with me. It shows a lot of promise as an all-purpose red tomato for market. It was fairly compact, can't remember if it was determinate or not. The flavor was as good as Big Beef and the yield was excellent. And yes, I have seeds if anyone wants some. Be advised, I also have soil disease. I don't seem to have it in my seeds, though. They are processed in Oxy Clean, and I sell and give away a couple thousand plants every spring, all to good reviews. |
January 11, 2018 | #8 | |
Tomatovillian™
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I will look at the dwarfs mentioned. I grew Arctic Rose last year and wasnt impressed, but I only had 1 plant so the jury is still out. I'm also growing Big Hill a bi-color det that Joseph Lofthouse bred. Now that I think about it I should have bought all of his det varieties. Bill I wanted to add that I see you grow over 250 varieties of tomatoes (which is amazing!) and your only 3 hours from me, and I assume you have that red Georgia clay like me, so I'd be very interested to hear which heirlooms are your best sellers/producers, and really just glean any wisdom from you that you care to share. Especially your growing practices. Thanks for the trade and all the rest! |
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January 11, 2018 | #9 | |
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January 11, 2018 | #10 |
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January 11, 2018 | #11 |
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January 11, 2018 | #12 | |
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Commercially, it might worth at least a trial in your garden. |
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January 13, 2018 | #14 |
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BVV,
Thanks for the heads up on the Orange You Glad. I am tempted to try it, but nothing that I source from the Northwest ever performs well for me. However, it IS 10 days earlier than BHN-871 so..... |
January 16, 2018 | #15 |
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Hi John - I may have been the one to share Taos Trail with you. It is in fact determinate. I got it from Val McMurray back in '09. I also have seeds for Taos Trail 1, same description: large round red, determinate. That one may have been something they were working on...
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