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Old January 19, 2018   #121
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I think i have some that I grew last year, originals seeds came from Cole. I also have mighty minis from saved seed from store bought peppers which produced identical peppers and lots of them. Let me see if I can dig them up.
Dude your always helping me out! At least let me SASE this time, and if you need anything from my trade list plz let me know.
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Old January 19, 2018   #122
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I'm planning on devoting most of my garden to peppers this year, instead of tomatoes. My market is very competitive, but I think there is a niche for "heirloom peppers." No one else is doing that, because everyone orders from catalogs, which are almost always hybrid varieties. My family was the first one with the Johnny's lunch box peppers, and then the year after that everyone had them, and they thus became much harder to sell.

One would think that other vendors would just buy a box of my heirloom peppers or tomatoes and save the seeds, but no one does that. I am guilty of it myself, but I just saved the seeds and did not start them. I honestly did that out of spite because I was mad at the other vendor for being snarky and rude when I asked her what varieties of "heirloom tomatoes" she was selling. She wouldn't answer the question, so I just bought one. As soon as my wallet came out, she was all smiles, and I was thinking 'lady, you have no idea about my intentions with this tomato.'
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Old January 19, 2018   #123
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Not sure if you've tried the variety 'King of the North' but I've been very pleased with it in southern Wisconsin. It might fit into your heirloom pepper plan.
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Old January 19, 2018   #124
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Neat, thanks. I'm sure I will put in a Baker Creek order at some point. I see they carry it.
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Old January 19, 2018   #125
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I'm growing a lot of Japanese varieties this year (peppers and tomatoes). Not sure
how marketable it's going be though. They have bred some nice tomatoes OP and hybrid.
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Neat, thanks. I'm sure I will put in a Baker Creek order at some point. I see they carry it.
They were my original source.
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Not sure if you've tried the variety 'King of the North' but I've been very pleased with it in southern Wisconsin. It might fit into your heirloom pepper plan.
Last year I finally got a decent yield from King of the North, not writing any praise and glory for it due to past performance ... I am keeping it for this year (2018). Really hope to find something else much better though.
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Last year I finally got a decent yield from King of the North, not writing any praise and glory for it due to past performance ... I am keeping it for this year (2018). Really hope to find something else much better though.
I never got great bell pepper yield in ground here, KON or others. Since I’ve moved my peppers to buckets I get tremendous production. My parents get 2-3 KON peppers from me each year but their garden is along the south wall of a white house they are in ground and have great results. This makes me wonder about soil temp and potentially too cool is bad for peppers.
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I never got great bell pepper yield in ground here, KON or others. Since I’ve moved my peppers to buckets I get tremendous production. My parents get 2-3 KON peppers from me each year but their garden is along the south wall of a white house they are in ground and have great results. This makes me wonder about soil temp and potentially too cool is bad for peppers.
Yes, all peppers need hot soil to do well ... the namesake "King of the North" implies that it might do well in Northern climates but my experience is that it does not. I've been growing it for years (not sure why) and it really isn't worth the garden space - definitely looking for another good zone 5 Bell !!! My Cubanelles and other 'sweets' quickly out perform and out-taste them.
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Yes, all peppers need hot soil to do well ... the namesake "King of the North" implies that it might do well in Northern climates but my experience is that it does not. I've been growing it for years (not sure why) and it really isn't worth the garden space - definitely looking for another good zone 5 Bell !!! My Cubanelles and other 'sweets' quickly out perform and out-taste them.
I grow mainly snacking sweet peppers—those orange yellow and red ones that you see in the stores only taste a whole lot better fresh from the garden. Not that bells don’t do well for me now but for fresh eating the little sweets just are more convenient and taste a bit better anyway.
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I've also noticed peppers seem to prefer pots. My 7 pot primo performed remarkably last year considering I neglected it pretty badly and forgot to water several times.
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Wonder if there is a pH element to it? Peppers can be a finicky bunch.
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Oh and Cole, I have seeds if you want to use your purchase $$ on others.
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Wonder if there is a pH element to it? Peppers can be a finicky bunch.
There is a PH element to peppers, they don't grow well for me if there's too much peat in the soil mix. Some might disagree but peppers don't like too much peat, it lowers the PH too much.


Here's some good info on peppers.
http://www.ecoseeds.com/Pepper.growing.tips.html
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I'm planning on devoting most of my garden to peppers this year, instead of tomatoes. My market is very competitive, but I think there is a niche for "heirloom peppers." No one else is doing that, because everyone orders from catalogs, which are almost always hybrid varieties. My family was the first one with the Johnny's lunch box peppers, and then the year after that everyone had them, and they thus became much harder to sell.

One would think that other vendors would just buy a box of my heirloom peppers or tomatoes and save the seeds, but no one does that. I am guilty of it myself, but I just saved the seeds and did not start them. I honestly did that out of spite because I was mad at the other vendor for being snarky and rude when I asked her what varieties of "heirloom tomatoes" she was selling. She wouldn't answer the question, so I just bought one. As soon as my wallet came out, she was all smiles, and I was thinking 'lady, you have no idea about my intentions with this tomato.'
Me too, mostly in containers, but may put some in raised beds. I'm thinking of ordering some of the lunch box peppers from Johnny's.
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