2015 Grow lists - Is it Time??

[cecilsgarden1958]

Well! Scratch that! My seedlings were the worst, thinnest most horrible I have ever tried to grow. I have been buying plants all week. Here & there.

So far, I have:
1 each Better Boy, Big Brandy, Jersey Boy, Mt. Fresh, Amelia
2 Scarlet Red (One grafted, one regular)
2 Indigo Rose

P.S. I'm out of the seed business

[Father'sDaughter]

Originally Posted by cecilsgarden1958

Well! Scratch that! My seedlings were the worst, thinnest most horrible I have ever tried to grow. I have been buying plants all week. Here & there.

So far, I have:
1 each Better Boy, Big Brandy, Jersey Boy, Mt. Fresh, Amelia
2 Scarlet Red (One grafted, one regular)
2 Indigo Rose

P.S. I'm out of the seed business

Grow them any way you can!

[heirloomtomaguy]

Originally Posted by cecilsgarden1958

Well! Scratch that! My seedlings were the worst, thinnest most horrible I have ever tried to grow. I have been buying plants all week. Here & there.

So far, I have:
1 each Better Boy, Big Brandy, Jersey Boy, Mt. Fresh, Amelia
2 Scarlet Red (One grafted, one regular)
2 Indigo Rose

P.S. I'm out of the seed business

If they are tall and scrawny bury them deep. They will turn out fine once they hit the ground.

[cecilsgarden1958]

Originally Posted by heirloomtomaguy

If they are tall and scrawny bury them deep. They will turn out fine once they hit the ground.

Hah! I wish. They were only about 2"-3" tall and as thin as a gnat's eye lash.

[Gardeneer]

Originally Posted by cecilsgarden1958

Hah! I wish. They were only about 2"-3" tall and as thin as a gnat's eye lash.

When did you start germinating ? If you get real nice weather, they should do fine.
I think you would need about 5 weeks of lead time, to have good size seedlings.
I started germinating March 1st and planting out around April 9 ( 40 days)

Good luck , Cecil

[habitat_gardener]

I have 3 gardens! Usually I spread plants out among them, but somehow I got the idea that this year I could plant one of each at one garden, and duplicates in the other 2 gardens. Hmm.

It was hard to choose, but I limited myself to 40 varieties from seed. (One or two might be missing from the list below.) I planted (too) many extras of some varieties, anticipating garden shares, plant exchanges, etc. I've given away a few flats and will have quite a few left over.
The ones with the asterisk are new to me. So far I've planted only one bed (15 plants). Lots of garden work to do this week!

*Blackberry, midseason large black KY

*Bulgarian Old Sort/ No Name, midseason large red round, Bulgaria

*Bulgarian Triumph, midseason small red, compact plant, Bulgaria

*Burning Spear, midseason orange small pointed plum, wispy foliage

Druzba, midseason red medium round, Bulgaria, very reliable here (grew lots to give away)

*Dynnye, midseason large orange Russian "melonlike"

*Elgin Pink, large pink sweet

*Esmerelda Golosina, green small

*Grightmire's Pride, midseason medium pink heart, wispy foliage, Yugoslavia

*Grosse Verte Rose, midseason medium irreg multicolor, France

*Joe's Pink Oxheart, large pink heart, Ozarks

*Margaret Curtain, early large black

Marizol Bratka (Purple Brandy), midseason potato-leaf large pink, stable cross of Bwn x Marizol Purple, one of my favorites the year I grew it

*Marmande Verte, midseason medium green, mutation of red Marmande

*Maya & Sion's Airdrie Classic, midseason potato-leaf medium red, stable cross of Bwn x Stupice

*Orlov Yellow, mid/late season potato-leaf orange large

*Pale Perfect Purple, early pink potato-leaf medium, compact plant

Pruden's Purple, midseason potato-leaf pink large, very reliable here (grew lots to give away)

*Raspberry Beret F1, early

*Roza de Zarautz, semi-determinate early-midseason heart

*Rozovyi Myod (Pink Honey), midseason large pink heart, Russia

Russian Rose, midseason medium pink, Russia, best-tasting one last year, though not very productive

*Sakharnyi Pudovichok,

*Sweet Ozark Orange, midseason large orange, stable cross of Dr Wyche's Yellow x German Red Strawberry

Tobolsk, midseason med yel/orange, Russian heirloom, one of my favorites the year I grew it, and the reason I'm growing several other orange varieties

*Weisnicht's Potato Leaf, midseason potato-leaf medium pink, MN family heirloom

*Zolotoy Serdtse, early, small orange heart, determinate, Russian "heart of gold"

CHERRIES: my original plan was to plant most of them in a front-yard hugelkultur bed, but I've reconsidered because it may not get enough sun, and it's a new bed. I usually try not to plant more than 3-4 cherries, and for this project I limited myself to 10, more or less. I figured a little shade would enable me to try them and not be inundated with too many per plant, and in the front yard if passers-by stole a few, there'd still be enough.

*Black Hole Sun, midseason black/purple large grape

*Brandywine Pink Cherry, midseason potato-leaf pink large cherry to small saladette

Carbon Copy, black cherry

*Cherokee Green Grape, midseason green small, determinate

*Green Zebra Cherry, green striped round cherry, Germany, not related to GZ

*Guernsey Pink Blush, midseason pink cherry/salad, mutation of NZ tomato

*Honeydrop Cherry, early/midseason yellow cherry

*Kiss the Sky, midseason small purple cherry/salad, OP version of Purple Haze F1

*Microbeicum Occimum, red cherry

Pink Vernissage, midseason striped pink cherry/salad, Ukrainian, stable cross of Stupice x Kitaiskiy Barkhatnyi, a terrific dried tomato (grew lots to give away)

*Robe Mountain Tommy Toe, pink cherry (the red variety, Tommy Toe, is one of my standards)

Zluta Kytice, midseason yellow cherry, Czech "yellow flowers", compact plant (grew lots to give away)


In addition, I obtained some seedlings...

Ace, midseason round red medium mild/sweet -- spent $1.39 on a 4-inch pot of 2 plants back in March, intending to plant early, but the garden beds weren't ready. They're still in large pots and not in the ground yet! (Also got a whole bunch of tiny seedlings in a 6-pack from a visitor, and potted up 25 of them. Gave all of those away.)

*Sexy Beast, a Love Apple variety
*Delano Green, another GWR
Orange Russian 117, very fruity the last time I tasted one
-- from someone in my local gardening group who attended the tomato workshop at Love Apple Farm and had some extras to give away. I restrained myself.

Caspian Pink
-- another gardener left a whole flat of seedlings at the community garden, couldn't resist an old favorite

*Enchantment F1
-- from a local plant sale, where I heard it was Rosalind Creasy's favorite tomato (she wrote the book Edible Landscaping), so I figured I had to try it

*Jazz
*Orange Jazz
*Orange Caprese (Sunol)
*Green Tiger
-- couldn't resist 3 new releases of Artisan Tomato varieties, plus another GWR (got them directly from Fred's farm)

And one more cherry tomato at tonight's garden event:
*Crete Olive, described as a large olive shaped cherry tomato with excellent flavor
'

Ppppers: only 3 varieties.
Frank's
Healthy
Slonovo Uvo

Plus, so far, several varieties each of cucumbers, summer squash, winter squash, and melons. Probably only one variety of pole beans this year, though.

[cecilsgarden1958]

Well, I got all my replacement tomatoes bought. Mostly hybrids (this year, will mix some others in next year)
Got Lemon Boy, Orange Slice, Mt. Pride, Red Beefsteak, Whopper, Goliath in addition to the others above, but decided against Amelia.

[silverseed]

This year I'm growing Lenny & Gracie's Kentucky Heirloom, Egyptian, German Giant Tree, Mortgage Lifter, Mr. Stripey, Brandywine Red, Brandywine Pink, Brandywine Suddeth's strain, Brandywine Landis Valley Strain, Giant Belgium, Mr. Underwood's Pink German Giant, Purple Dog Creek, Buck Maxie, Marglobe, Celebrity VFFNTAST, Mountain Merit VFFN, Better Boy, Beefsteak, Rutger's VFAST, West Virginia 63.

[korney19]

Originally Posted by ContainerTed

Okay, here's what I have in the works this year. I usually wait till I get thru with the germination phase. I use a lot of older seeds and they can be slow to show sometimes.

Slicers and main source of Juice for canning.

Acme
Admiralteyskoe Serdtse
African Queen
AK Brown
AK GWR
Angora Orange
Atkinson
Belmonte
Blue Cherry
Boondocks
Bulgarian Old Sort (No Name)
Campari
Casino Paste
Connie's Cain
Cowlick's Brandywine
Depp's Pink Firefly
Dinner Plate
Dixie Golden Giant
Dora
Erika d'Australie
Faworyt
George Detsikas Italian Red
German Queen
Golden Ponderosa
Henderson's Pink Ponderosa
Herman's Special
Huge Black
Indian Stripe
Irish Pink
Jeff Davis
Large Red
Lincoln Adams
Lisos Grandes
Maiden's Fire
Maiden's Gold
Matt's Wild Cherry
Mexico
Middle Tennessee Low Acid
Mikhalych
Mr. Stripey
Old Ferry Morse Beefsteak
Palestinian
Purple Haze
Raspberry
Rozalinda
Rozovyi Velikan
Russkaya Dusha
Sakharnyi Pudovichok
Sara's Galapagos Large
Soldacki
Stick
Sun Gold F1 VFNT
Sunset's Red Horizon
Syzranka
Tennessee Suited
Tennessee Sweet
Tennessee Yellow Cherry
Toedebusch Pink
Tommy Toe Red
Tommy Toe Yellow (Large)
Turkish Ayla
Tyazheloves Sibiri
Ukrainka


Hybrids - I always purchase a few large plants to get early tomatoes. I actually got these this morning and they have fruit already set on them. I found some 24-30 inch plants for $2.50 each.

Better Boy
Celebrity
Empire


R&D - Stabilization in progress Taste is Excellent.

African Queen (Not)
Brother Bill's Yellow Volunteer
Cheeky Dwarf 3-32
Cheeky F3 (2-23) Dwarf
Cheeky F3 (7-1) Non Dwarf
Kellogg's West Virginia F4
Loopy Dwarf #1 (F4)
Loopy F4 (1-21) Red Dwarf
Loopy F4 (7-25) Indet. Non Dwarf
Loopy Stripe (F4)
(NARX (F3) X Pink Berkeley Tie-Dye) F5
(SpudGiant (F2) X Berkeley Tie-Dye) F5
(SpudGiant (F2) X Goose Creek (F1)) F5
Sun Gold Volunteer (F6)
Tidy (No Stripes) F6
Tidy (No Stripes) F5
Uluru Ochre F7


Misc Others in Work - Nearing stabilizaion and release. Superb Taste

Red Plum Shape Cherry (F4)
Pink 10-16 oz Beefsteak (F4)
Pink 8 oz Beefsteak (F5)


Probably will be ready for release in the fall

Maiden's Pride - Red, Reg. Leaf, Indet, 8-12 oz oblate Beefsteak. Great taste. I sent some of these to Tville member "Geza", and his wife loved it so much that she told himt it was the only one he really needed to grow. Geza grows 100's of varieties every year.

Ted, thanks for growing Kellogg's West Virginia! Hope it turned out well for you!

[efisakov]

The (SpudGiant (F2) X Berkeley Tie-Dye) F5 sounds so interesting. How was it? Color, shape, size, production and taste?

...and, where can one purchase seeds for Maiden's Pride?

[MissS]

Originally Posted by efisakov

The (SpudGiant (F2) X Berkeley Tie-Dye) F5 sounds so interesting. How was it? Color, shape, size, production and taste?

...and, where can one purchase seeds for Maiden's Pride?

Maiden's Pride is a Container Ted creation. It can be found at Heritage Seed Market.

[efisakov]

Originally Posted by MissS

Maiden's Pride is a Container Ted creation. It can be found at Heritage Seed Market.

Thank you, Patti.

It is not on their website right now, I hope they are processing the seeds still and will post it soon.

[Gardeneer]

I am working on my tentative 2017 grow out list right now.
But it won't be public for a while.

[korney19]

Originally Posted by joseph

I'm expecting to get serious about planting tomatoes in the next week so here's some additions to the grow list:

One plant each of:

• Persimmon: To drag orange color into my breeding program on the chance that it might improve the taste.
• Cougar Red Vine: Because it claims it's adapted to cool growing season. 75-80 days to maturity is way iffy in my garden.
• Belyi Naliv: Because it came from Dan McMurray's garden.
• Sibirskiy Skorospezyi: Because it claims to be a very early determinate that came from one of Dan's neghbors.
• Bloody Butcher: So many people in cold climates praise it that I aughta give it a chance.
• Old German: Several people sent me seeds thinking that they'd meet on of my breeding goals. Might as well try it.
• Stupice: A variety that I sought out because it is early, and said to be highly favored by bees. I'm really looking forward to this one.
• Kozula #14 Megatrusses F4 Red Pear
• Kozula #14 F5 Pear-Shaped Cherry Super Multi-floral Very Good Flavor
• Jackass Yellow: To help get me away from red tomatoes.
• Fargo: A yellow pear tomato
• Little Paste: A variety I grow every year just because it is unique. Fruits are super long keeping and can dry on the vine.
• Hawaiian Cherry: I think someone sent this due to the flower characteristics.
• Tastiheart: Too long season for my garden, but I keep it around hoping to be able to do a proper frost tolerance test on of these years.
• LA 3969: S Habrochaites introgression line. Tests very high cold tolerance.
• An unnamed current tomato given to me at the farmer's market by the flower lady.
• I have seeds from Galapagos wild tomatoes if I can find them.

Then I'm growing about a dozen each of:

• [(Big Beef X Eva Purple Ball) X Disease Tolerant Red] or seed that I collected from it...
• Wild Crosses: A mix of all kinds of about 3 seeds per type. Some F2s F3s. All should cross pollinate well.
• D5: Part of a direct seeded breeding project that keeps failing for me, but I keep trying.
• Joseph's Main Season Tomato Landrace, Seeds returned to me from a collaborator in 2012.

Still might yet get F2 seeds from the winter-growouts of some of the crosses for the promiscuously pollinating project. I moved them into the greenhouse about a week ago. Some have fruits already, some don't.

Joseph, do you have any pics you could post of your Kozula #14's?

[Kunfayakun]

Originally Posted by gourmetgardener

Beefsteaks

Geronimo F1 (Johnnys)
Bigdena F1 (Johnnys)
Rebelski F1 (Johnnys)

Italian
Granadero F1 (Johnnys)
Pozzano F1 (Johnnys)

Cocktail
Kierano F1 - Performed better than Campari (Norseco)
Bellini F1 (Orange Cocktail) (Norseco)
Yellow Sun F1 (Yellow Cocktail) (Norseco)

Kumato Types
Kakao F1 (Johnnys)
Espresso F1 (Paramount)

Small Tomatoes
Sunstream F1 (Lindbloms)
Sakura F1 (Johnnys)
Montessino F1 (Johnnys)
Santaorange F1 (Johnnys)

Which one was better in taste and yield out of geronimo, rebelski, torero and big dena? And have you tried foronti and tanager?
Please let us know your experience about all the above mentioned varieties (all of 'em).
thank you.