Stable open pollinated Sungold/Sunsugar varieties - Page 2

RobinB · October 15, 2013

Well, I was pleased that fresh seeds from Lee this year for both Ambrosia Gold and Ambrosia Red produced the colors that they should. At least in my garden!

**carolyn137** · October 15, 2013

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Originally Posted by RobinB

Well, I was pleased that fresh seeds from Lee this year for both Ambrosia Gold and Ambrosia Red produced the colors that they should. At least in my garden!

And that's very good to know since Lee said he knew what the problem might be and it looks like he corrected it.

Carolyn

uno · October 19, 2013

Thanks Carolyn and RobinB

Carolyn

I think I have a good guess where you would buy seeds from but I'm not totally sure!

RobinB

When I grew some of the Sungold open pollinated varieties years ago I got different sizes even more extreme than your pictures. The color on some was a red/orange mix on some also rather than one color or another. It sounds like you are getting good tasting tomatoes from them and that is what is really important though!

**carolyn137** · October 19, 2013

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Originally Posted by uno

Thanks Carolyn and RobinB

Carolyn

I think I have a good guess where you would buy seeds from but I'm not totally sure!

RobinB

When I grew some of the Sungold open pollinated varieties years ago I got different sizes even more extreme than your pictures. The color on some was a red/orange mix on some also rather than one color or another. It sounds like you are getting good tasting tomatoes from them and that is what is really important though!

I'll PM you about the Galina source.

Carolyn

goodwin · November 5, 2013

hi -
What Robin shows does look similar to Sugar Drop. Sugar Drop is a further selection of Ambrosia Gold, smaller and sort of a dusky gold color. It also tapers a bit and will have a small nipple on the end, and I can't tell that from Robin's photo. It has the same flavor and scent as Sungold, but the brix level is quite a bit higher, particularly later in the season.
I sent out about a hundred packets of Sugar Drop last season. There has been one surprise so far. A grower thinks he may have a pink Sugar Drop and sent me some seed.
The Ambrosia lines appear to be pretty stable now as well. Thanks Carolyn! I've had another season to select them, so we are at F6. It is always an adventure and it's wonderful to work with everyone here.
Lee

RobinB · November 6, 2013

Lee,
Nope. Mine are perfectly round and a darker, more intense gold (pumpkin colored) than what you show in the photo of Sugar Drop. I've never seen any elongation or nipples either.

I think my Ambrosia seeds are all finally dry. I'll get some in the mail to you soon.

We had a very early frost this year. There have been so many cold fronts I've lost count. Nights have been in the 20s, and we've had a small amount of snow down here (but over a foot up at Tahoe). How about you?

Robin

zeroma · June 9, 2014

Goodwin,

So which one gives you the taste and smell of Sun Gold with a higher brix? I'm a little mixed up on reading this while I'm tired.

goodwin · June 10, 2014

hi zeroma,

The Ambrosia Gold is identical to SunGold in appearance and flavor. Sugar Drop is a bit smaller, sweeter, and is not orange. Both have the spicy scent. I took some to market Saturday in Santa Fe, so they are early for being field grown.

Lee

RJGlew · June 10, 2014

From Casey's Heirloom

Looking for the Japanese hybrid Sungold then you should try these:
Ambrosia Gold (p. 6)
Sweet Orange II (p. 14)
Big Sungold Select (p. 27)

Gardadore · June 10, 2014

I grew Sugar Drop last season. I gave away a number of plants. All the recipients got tomatoes that fit the description. My one plant produced pink tomatoes probably similar to the ones Goodwin mentioned above. I did save seed fom it. I also saved seed from one of my giveaways. This year I sowed the original ones from last year again just to see if there is a problem with stability. Everyone raved about the Sugar Drop. The pink variety I got were not as sweet.

October 15, 2013	#16
RobinB Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Near Reno, NV Posts: 1,621	Well, I was pleased that fresh seeds from Lee this year for both Ambrosia Gold and Ambrosia Red produced the colors that they should. At least in my garden!

October 19, 2013	#18
uno Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: SW Pennsylvania, zone 6a Posts: 147	Thanks Carolyn and RobinB Carolyn I think I have a good guess where you would buy seeds from but I'm not totally sure! RobinB When I grew some of the Sungold open pollinated varieties years ago I got different sizes even more extreme than your pictures. The color on some was a red/orange mix on some also rather than one color or another. It sounds like you are getting good tasting tomatoes from them and that is what is really important though!

November 6, 2013	#21
RobinB Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Near Reno, NV Posts: 1,621	Lee, Nope. Mine are perfectly round and a darker, more intense gold (pumpkin colored) than what you show in the photo of Sugar Drop. I've never seen any elongation or nipples either. I think my Ambrosia seeds are all finally dry. I'll get some in the mail to you soon. We had a very early frost this year. There have been so many cold fronts I've lost count. Nights have been in the 20s, and we've had a small amount of snow down here (but over a foot up at Tahoe). How about you? Robin

June 9, 2014	#22
zeroma Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2012 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 637	Goodwin, So which one gives you the taste and smell of Sun Gold with a higher brix? I'm a little mixed up on reading this while I'm tired.

June 10, 2014	#23
goodwin Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Espanola, New Mexico Posts: 606	hi zeroma, The Ambrosia Gold is identical to SunGold in appearance and flavor. Sugar Drop is a bit smaller, sweeter, and is not orange. Both have the spicy scent. I took some to market Saturday in Santa Fe, so they are early for being field grown. Lee

June 10, 2014	#24
RJGlew Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 643	From Casey's Heirloom Looking for the Japanese hybrid Sungold then you should try these: Ambrosia Gold (p. 6) Sweet Orange II (p. 14) Big Sungold Select (p. 27)

June 10, 2014	#25
Gardadore Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Saylorsburg, PA Posts: 261	I grew Sugar Drop last season. I gave away a number of plants. All the recipients got tomatoes that fit the description. My one plant produced pink tomatoes probably similar to the ones Goodwin mentioned above. I did save seed fom it. I also saved seed from one of my giveaways. This year I sowed the original ones from last year again just to see if there is a problem with stability. Everyone raved about the Sugar Drop. The pink variety I got were not as sweet.