Tomatoville® Gardening Forums


Notices

Share your favorite photos with us here. Instructions on how to post them can be found in the first post within.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old July 5, 2013   #1
Boutique Tomatoes
Tomatovillian™
 
Boutique Tomatoes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Northeast Wisconsin, Zone 5a
Posts: 1,109
Default 2013 Project Photos

For 2013 I've gone even bigger, planning on continuing to build a local market for something other than your standard red and yellow slicer varieties. After last years market research and evaluation grow out of around 200 varieties I trimmed down the number of varieties and this year am growing around 150 lines, primarily salad size, cherries, currants and a few rows of slicers and my sausage paste types that I use for salsa.

I've got a much smaller number at home, mostly the varieties I am using in crosses this year.

It didn't seem like it would take as much time as it does when I was planning it all out. I need to finish weeding Saturday and if we get some rain to soften things up a bit it will help with pounding stakes next week.




While my breeding efforts from this point forward are going to be more focused, I still have a fair number of segregating lines in this years grow out. I've also got several hundred plants from 65 (?) of Tom Wagner's lines.
Because it was my interest in the blue lines that triggered my interest in breeding, I've got a lot of those. 57 lines in the field are 'blue' tomatoes.

These next two fruits are different plants in a segregating line that has both stripes and antho, it looks like I will have a least one elongated cherry type and one saladette sized version. There are about 20 plants from this cross in the field, these two were just next to each other yesterday when I was weeding so I sat down and took pictures.





It was a horribly late and wet spring, so I have lost a few plants. However, temperatures have been very mild, pretty much perfect for fruit set.



I'm not really looking to start farming, but to build a local market for unique varieties and facilitate my breeding projects. I'm hoping to involve a couple of other local projects so that I end up getting a cooperating grower started at some point down the road. I'll post some more specifics about the project sometime soon.
Boutique Tomatoes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 5, 2013   #2
Redbaron
Tomatovillian™
 
Redbaron's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 4,488
Default

Facinating
__________________
Scott

AKA The Redbaron

"Permaculture is a philosophy of working with, rather than against nature; of protracted & thoughtful observation rather than protracted & thoughtless labour; & of looking at plants & animals in all their functions, rather than treating any area as a single-product system."
Bill Mollison
co-founder of permaculture
Redbaron is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 5, 2013   #3
PA_Julia
Tomatovillian™
 
PA_Julia's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Princeton, Ky Zone 7A
Posts: 2,208
Default

Very very interesting!!
__________________
Personal Best- 4.46 LB Big Zac 2013
PA_Julia is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 5, 2013   #4
Boutique Tomatoes
Tomatovillian™
 
Boutique Tomatoes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Northeast Wisconsin, Zone 5a
Posts: 1,109
Default

The gestation of the project idea came from people asking me if I sold tomatoes the past few years and the interest of some friends who own a popular local restaurant. In the past year multiple programs in the area have been started to provide access to land for market gardeners/farmers in exchange for a portion of the produce to be donated to local food pantries. I talked to people from Goodwill and the city about the possibility of doing something this year at a location downtown, but there was a glitch because it was next to the river and supposedly the DNR needed to be involved. That was going to push into the summer so this year the 'farm' is at a friends house.

The general idea is that I'm going to do the leg work to prove a market exists and have all the materials needed along with a customer list, experience and numbers to show that this can make a profit (even in a rough year). This will allow me to partner with someone in one of the market grower programs next year and have some 'skin in the game' (but hopefully not spend all my spare time in the field next year).

Next year working with the UW Extension office we'll apply for a USDA crop development grant to develop 'boutique' tomato varieties incorporating disease resistance genetics, something I am starting the crosses for now. The majority of the grant funds would be earmarked for doing Marker Assisted Selection testing of breeding lines, which is a stumbling block for small breeders.

If it all comes together I can help someone start a business, indulge my breeding interests, improve the local food offerings and possibly do something good for the tomato world. Now to hope I don't burn out or have my wife decide I'm spending too much time playing farmer this year...
Boutique Tomatoes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 7, 2013   #5
Mashman
Tomatovillian™
 
Mashman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: MA
Posts: 158
Default

If I didn't know better, I would say you are into it Mark.... Always fascinated with your pics..... keep them coming...much appreciated on this end...

Michael
Mashman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 7, 2013   #6
madddawg
Tomatovillian™
 
madddawg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Missouri
Posts: 407
Default

I m interested in what you got going on there. I will try to keep up with ya.
__________________
I grow a garden not just for the food I harvest, but for the creation of life itself.
Johnny Cash
madddawg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 8, 2013   #7
Boutique Tomatoes
Tomatovillian™
 
Boutique Tomatoes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Northeast Wisconsin, Zone 5a
Posts: 1,109
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mashman View Post
If I didn't know better, I would say you are into it Mark.... Always fascinated with your pics..... keep them coming...much appreciated on this end...

Michael
Just a little. I've already been giving impromptu garden tours when people see me out in the field and come over to see the depths of my obsession.

Right now I'm a happy camper, I got fertilizer down on Saturday and woke up to the sound of rain today. Looks like we'll get a steady rain for 4-5 hours today, a chance of another storm tomorrow afternoon and then a week of sunshine in the high 70's and low 80's according to the forecast. Maybe Mother Nature decided to take pity on me finally.

And I already had one hopeful chef text me asking if I had any early ones ripe yet this weekend because they were working on a new menu...
Boutique Tomatoes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 8, 2013   #8
Boutique Tomatoes
Tomatovillian™
 
Boutique Tomatoes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Northeast Wisconsin, Zone 5a
Posts: 1,109
Default

Rain came down a little longer and harder than I would have liked...



A good year to select for disease resistance, I just wish so much fertilizer wasn't ending up in the creek.
Boutique Tomatoes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 8, 2013   #9
Redbaron
Tomatovillian™
 
Redbaron's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 4,488
Default

Mark,
Might want to take a peek at the Red Baron Project. Far less damages from that kind of flooding.
__________________
Scott

AKA The Redbaron

"Permaculture is a philosophy of working with, rather than against nature; of protracted & thoughtful observation rather than protracted & thoughtless labour; & of looking at plants & animals in all their functions, rather than treating any area as a single-product system."
Bill Mollison
co-founder of permaculture
Redbaron is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 9, 2013   #10
Boutique Tomatoes
Tomatovillian™
 
Boutique Tomatoes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Northeast Wisconsin, Zone 5a
Posts: 1,109
Default

There is a creek at the edge of the field there that flooded, in the corner the water was probably more than a foot deep.

My goals are a little different than yours, I want to develop boutique varieties that do well in standard field cultivation conditions and diseases here in the Midwest. Unfortunately alternating flooding and drought conditions are all too common. ;-)

One of the new varieties that seems to be thriving is Lee Goodwin's Starfire Isis. Some of the varieties around it are denuded sticks with a clump of healthy leaves at the top where the Starfire Isis plants are bushy and healthy with no signs of disease. I need to ask Lee what it's background is again...
Boutique Tomatoes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 9, 2013   #11
Redbaron
Tomatovillian™
 
Redbaron's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 4,488
Default

AHA, very true Mark! Since you want to develop boutique varieties that do well in standard field cultivation conditions and diseases, I guess it is up to me to try and change what is considered "standard field cultivation conditions". Hopefully for the better!
__________________
Scott

AKA The Redbaron

"Permaculture is a philosophy of working with, rather than against nature; of protracted & thoughtful observation rather than protracted & thoughtless labour; & of looking at plants & animals in all their functions, rather than treating any area as a single-product system."
Bill Mollison
co-founder of permaculture
Redbaron is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 10, 2013   #12
tlintx
Tomatovillian™
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: SeTx
Posts: 881
Default

That's nice to hear about the Starfire Isis, as it's one of my summer plants and I'm hoping it does well!


Tl
tlintx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 20, 2013   #13
Boutique Tomatoes
Tomatovillian™
 
Boutique Tomatoes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Northeast Wisconsin, Zone 5a
Posts: 1,109
Default

Some of the early cherries are starting to ripen now, my daughter Katie stayed with me today so she could help in the patch. Checking the bottom branches of more than a quarter mile of tomato rows she found the first full quart.



Since we're all about the tomatoes here, a shot of just the tomatoes.


We're growing a lot of currant types this year because the chefs we took tomatoes to last year went gaga over them. This is Gold Nugget Currant.



Indigo Kumquat is a new F1 antho variety I'm trying this year. I expect I will grow out seeds next year to see what happens, as the tiny plum/grape tomatoes are intriguing. The one on the far left there is ripe, these have a lot more antho color than the catalog picture showed.



Treasure Trove is a yellow cherry from Tom Wagner.



As part of my search for an antho currant type I'm growing out some of this Bosque Blue x Ted's Pink Currant from Cornbreadlouie.



I'm also growing out some of ChrisK's F1 crosses from last year. There are 4 plants of all of the ones I took, but I've got to go out and number each plant of this Sungold cross because of the possible variation from using the F1...



I'm going to head out and start taking pictures of some of the interesting things showing up in the antho grow outs, even though they are still green they have me excited about what's to come....

Last edited by Boutique Tomatoes; July 20, 2013 at 05:39 PM.
Boutique Tomatoes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 21, 2013   #14
Mashman
Tomatovillian™
 
Mashman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: MA
Posts: 158
Default

You have the magic touch Mark.

Michael
Mashman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 21, 2013   #15
Boutique Tomatoes
Tomatovillian™
 
Boutique Tomatoes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Northeast Wisconsin, Zone 5a
Posts: 1,109
Default

Mostly a combination of obsessive, lucky and having the time and space to grow a lot of plants.

The Blue Green Zebra that I found last year from Tom Wagner's Blue Green was interesting and unique so I grew out a dozen plants of it this year. Last year it was a salad size, this year I have a couple of plants showing what look to be bigger fruits.



I've got about 50 plants of various woolly lines this year. This one is Tigerpillar from Tom Wagner.



Quite a few of the woolly plants are derived from Tom's Seattle Woolly Blue Mammoth, this one is a selection I got from Heritage. It has woolly foliage, fuzzy skin, stripes and antho.



Unfortunately a few plants aren't tagged in the field. I believe this is also from SWBM, but I'm not sure of the seed source. It's similar to the one above, but the striping pattern and fruit set is different.

Boutique Tomatoes is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:50 AM.


★ Tomatoville® is a registered trademark of Commerce Holdings, LLC ★ All Content ©2022 Commerce Holdings, LLC ★